# Tuco's Modular Revolver -- any basis in fact?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 9, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucos-modular-revolver-any-basis-in-fact/652455 "2013-03-09T02:45:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucos-modular-revolver-any-basis-in-fact/652455/21 "2013-03-11T15:46:41Z")

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Yeah, it takes you out of the film and they’re completely unnecessary scenes.

But the Blu-Ray looks fantastic, I admit. Everybody is even more hideous and crusty!

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucos-modular-revolver-any-basis-in-fact/652455/22 "2013-03-12T04:49:46Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> That’s funny, I just saw _Once Upon a Time in the West_ last weekend for the first time. I didn’t like it nearly as much as the more “mythic” Man With No Name films.

Broadly, I kinda agree. It was supposedly Leone’s favorite ( Henry Fonda was his favorite actor ), but all due props to **Unforgiven** , I think **TGTGATU** is probably the best western ever done. One of the most epic finales in film, period.

_However_, as I have gone on about before with spittle-flecked lips, OUATITW’s opening is equally a work of art. I love how Leone lavishes film time on his generic red-shirt thugs.

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> NOW the Blu-Ray has even more scenes that they jarringly got the surviving actors to dub. And they just all make the movie weaker!

Very annoying :mad:. I wasn’t even aware that those scenes existed, but I can see no reason to have a “Greedo shot first” modification to a classic film like that. Sergio Leone is 25 years dead now, I wonder how he would have reacted? As prone to bloat as he was ( and he sometimes was ), I assume that stuff was cut for a reason, not just to meet a length requirement.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucos-modular-revolver-any-basis-in-fact/652455/23 "2013-03-12T05:16:01Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> As prone to bloat as he was ( and he sometimes was ), I assume that stuff was cut for a reason, not just to meet a length requirement.

Well, apparently not - it would appear those were intended by Leone all along: [wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good,_the_Bad_and_the_Ugly#Deleted_scenes).

I guess I’ll have to watch that restored cut some day and see what I think. But Leone _was_ prone to bloat ;).

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tucos-modular-revolver-any-basis-in-fact/652455/24 "2013-03-12T14:05:28Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> _However_, as I have gone on about before with spittle-flecked lips, OUATITW’s opening is equally a work of art. I love how Leone lavishes film time on his generic red-shirt thugs.

Oh, agreed. That’s fantastic.

My husband and I were just talking about how movies like OUATITW and TGTBATU (wow, those are awkward acronyms) and even the Coen brothers’ _True Grit_ have one of those hero cycle-style liminal experience in them - a signal that you’ve crossed a border and left behind the normal. I think it’s very much about entering a “mythic space” that contains these godlike people.

In OUATITW the woman gets off a train and into a wagon and they go into this insane bar/restaurant/laundry/stable where she witnesses a crazy encounter with Harmonica and tons of people almost get shot and it’s such a nonissue that the bartender takes his story right back up again after they leave.

In TGTBATU Tuco and Blondie are having a real-world style disagreement (they had a bargain, Blondie was an asshole, Tuco is getting revenge, but it’s all a real world make sense sort of thing) when all of a sudden in the middle of the desert an ambulance full of dead men borne by horses running at top speed practically runs them over, inexplicably, and suddenly their story changes.

In _True Grit_, another movie about “there were giants in those days” in some respects, once Mattie and Rooster cross the river they come across a hanged man and a trader who offers to buy him off them. Hey, you’ve entered the underworld now!

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