# Tulsi Gabbard and the Science of Identity cult **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 9, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428 "2019-08-09T20:56:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/21 "2019-08-12T14:32:57Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Yes, but we’re talking about the pro-war candidate here. No that would be Biden and Harris along with other lower polling hawks. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/22 "2019-08-12T14:44:01Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The antiwar candidate will always be slandered. It has been true for the entire history of the United States. It isn’t slander if it is true. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/23 "2019-08-12T14:45:55Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No that would be Biden and Harris along with other lower polling hawks. Biden is polling _low?_ What polls do you have that put Gabbard over Biden? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/24 "2019-08-12T15:00:55Z")
I’m sure he meant “Biden, Harris and other hawks (who are polling lower than Biden and Harris)” ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/25 "2019-08-12T15:31:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It isn’t slander if it is true. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Do I have evidence she isn’t weird, odd, or scary? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/26 "2019-08-12T15:33:36Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Do I have evidence she isn’t weird, odd, or scary? Is that the question I asked? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/27 "2019-08-12T16:09:51Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Is that the question I asked? :rolleyes: Yes. That’s how she is being slandered. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/28 "2019-08-12T16:20:35Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes. That’s how she is being slandered. I don’t know why you keep pushing this candidate…but I do know why the Republican Party wants her to be a front runner. She carries so much baggage her nickname might as well be “Samsonite”, and the bad PR about her would practically guarantee a second Trump term. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/29 "2019-08-12T16:22:17Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Yes. That’s how she is being slandered. What in the article referenced in the OP is slander, in your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/30 "2019-08-12T16:41:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What in the article referenced in the OP is slander, in your opinion? “Tulsi Gabbard Had a Very Strange Childhood” Ooh scary weird brown person wants to stop wars… ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/31 "2019-08-12T16:42:44Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > “Tulsi Gabbard Had a Very Strange Childhood” Is this the extent of the slander in the article, in your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/32 "2019-08-12T16:44:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I don’t know why you keep pushing this candidate…but I do know why the Republican Party wants her to be a front runner. She carries so much baggage her nickname might as well be “Samsonite”, and the bad PR about her would practically guarantee a second Trump term. Yes unlike other candidates who have supported every war and incarceration she has “baggage” because of your blatant religious bigotry. Curious that religion is baggage while hawkishness and Puritanism is not. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/33 "2019-08-12T16:46:58Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > “Tulsi Gabbard Had a Very Strange Childhood” > > Ooh scary weird brown person wants to stop wars… Supersizing a single word and artificially inserting a racism accusation? I don’t know where you are getting your craptastic bullet points, but you might want to find another source. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/34 "2019-08-12T16:51:57Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Is this the extent of the slander in the article, in your opinion? The whole thing was slander, the headline of the article was pure bigotry, but of course that is how US media deals with antiwar candidates. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/35 "2019-08-12T16:55:48Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The whole thing was slander, the headline of the article was pure bigotry, but of course that is how US media deals with antiwar candidates. Aside from “strange”, what in the article was slander? It appeared to me to be mostly factual reporting. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/36 "2019-08-12T16:58:47Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > The whole thing was slander, the headline of the article was pure bigotry, but of course that is how US media deals with antiwar candidates. Care to get specific as to what was inaccurate in the article…or are you going to stick with the vague accusations? ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/37 "2019-08-12T17:01:12Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Aside from “strange”, what in the article was slander? It appeared to me to be mostly factual reporting. This poster is very fond of using the term “slanderous” to describe many Americans’ criticisms of Gabbard. As s/he uses it, the sense of the word seems to be “people don’t like her and I think they should.” Unfortunately, I doubt you will get much further edification asking questions about what Actual Slander has taken place. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/38 "2019-08-12T17:13:23Z")
Gabbard has literally described herself as a hawk, and she’s the only Democratic candidate who has done so. She has stated multiple times that we should significantly step up our military efforts against Muslims, when all of the other Democrats are looking for ways to make peace. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/39 "2019-08-12T17:13:35Z")
From the Medium link earlier up above: “I hope one day Tulsi does reject Chris and finds her own voice.” So, she’s a Chrisian then? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428/40 "2019-08-12T17:13:40Z")
Isn’t Tulsi Gabbard the “anti-war pacifist” that took off two weeks from the campaign for National Guard duty? I know her name gets lots of play on Fox News, and she had a pleasant interview with Tucker Carlson…and if Tucker Carlson gives you a pleasant interview you might want to rethink your value system. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tulsi-gabbard-and-the-science-of-identity-cult/838428.md?page=3)