The link you posted, and other stories, said that 3 of them 7 died at the scene, and 4 survivors were taken out. Did two of them die later? I couldn’t find information about it, although maybe I didn’t dive deeply enough.
The first time my niece went to Indonesia, her flight went a bit out of the way so it would literally fly over the North Pole. I think it was the Newark to Tokyo leg of her trip.
Flightradar24.com shows a large plane, Delhi to Chicago and diverted, on the ground as I write this (6:30PM Central time).
AFAIK 2 more died in hospital. A really shitty situation. Aside from Chinooks, few helicopters have 2 pilots (and maybe not even then).
My understanding is the reported “time of death” is when the doctor observes the patient. Even if the spouse found them dead several hours earlier. My wife died about 4:00am. I called the hospice line and the doctor arrived about two hours later, at 6:00am. The time of death was recorded as 6:00am. I guess that’s really the only reasonable way for it to work; the doctor can’t write down a time based on what some untrained layman claims to have observed.
It’s now showing a flight by Flair Airlines direct from Montreal is now on the ground at Iqaluit and scheduled to return to Montreal later this evening. Flair Airlines does not serve Iqaluit so I’m guessing a charter.
As I write this (11:14 PM Central time) there’s a plane just south of Iqaluit, LAS to AMS (Las Vegas to Amsterdam). Another flight just took off from YFB (Iqaluit) within the past few minutes.
Also approaching the reason is a SFO to LHR, and a LAX to AMS flight. Hope they don’t have to land in Iqaluit.
Would a metal detector work for that? The whole plane is made of metal. Is there something about a bomb that triggers the detector in a way that’s different than the structure of the plane?
I would think a bomb-sniffing dog (if they have one in Iqaluit) or some electronic equivalent would work better.
If they don’t have such a dog in Iqualuit, they could bring one in. From what I’ve seen in simple Google searches, the Canadian military is involved somehow in getting the Air India passengers on their way to Chicago, and the RCMP is too. I’d be surprised if both agencies do not have bomb-sniffing dogs.
Air India 127: The passengers (not the crew) left for Chicago at 23:54 EDT Tuesday night on a Canadian Air Force plane. (whether that plane was already in Iqaluit or had to be flown in is unknown). Normally - the passengers would have been booked into hotels overnight, and left in the morning. Not enough hotel rooms, and the crew didn’t have enough rest time, so it was decided to do it this way.
The flight arrived in Chicago at 02:48 CDT Wednesday morning. Checked baggage remained on the original plane. I believe the plan was/is to fly a relief crew (from Chicago?) to Iqaluit to return the plane to Chicago.
Nope. Even if you watch someone go down, by the time you pull out your phone, call 911, give the info to the call taker, have that get turned over to the dispatcher & us toned out is almost a minute. Putting our shoes on, figuring out where we’re going (if it’s a residence on a little street, not a public place or main street) drive there, get our equipment out, get into the house or (worse) up to your apartment at the opposite end of the hall from the elevator you’re already pushing that 4-6 mins, maybe longer, before we even make patient contact. That’s why bystander CPR & early AED access are so important if they want to have any chance.
EMS is not untrained laymen, though.
Yes, CBC news says the passengers were taken by the Canadian armed forces to Chicago. Presumably they are taking this particular bomb threat very seriously, wonder what they know? Comes just after Trudeau pissed off the Indian government by re-raising the issue of Indian agencies assassinating someone on Canadian soil, so maybe part of that. Or retaliatory action by Sikh radicals, who had blown up an aircraft from Canada (and almost one in Narita) back in the 80’s.
Regardless, this is probably a good example of when a plane must land ASAP, versus a dead body which will survive a trip to JFK airport.
Something I read said that most people who “die in their sleep” usually die about when they are about to wake up. As part of waking up, apparently the body releases a burst of adrenalin to get things moving. This often pushes people with weak hearts over the edge.
But yes, most people who die overnight would be found in the morning.
If the Turkish Airlines plane had multiple crews, did the pilot die on duty or while in his sleep phase? I assume too that pilots working regularly on transoceanic flights have the added stress of sleep disruption and timezone shifts.
Yeah. A big one is simply that it’s a lot of third-shift work. Same as the folks at the factory who report for work at 11pm and work past sunrise.
There is a saying on the international division: “You never really get used to flying international. You just forget what normally rested ever felt like.”
The folks who fly even domestically for e.g Fedex have the same issues. A month of graveyard beats you up like 2 months of normal life.
In answer to a question raised earlier in this thread, there was a story in today’s Montreal paper. A plane from India headed to Chicago made an emergency landing in Inuvik. They didn’t say a word about Canadian immigration, but they didn’t have enough facilities to deal with all the passengers and a Canadian Air Force plane took them all to Chicago. I assume the airline will eventually get billed for this.
This incident was discussed further up the thread. And it landed in Iqaluit - not Inuvik.
That is correct, and VFib is the one they use the defibrillators for and is the one that can lead to imminent cardiac arrest. It would be reasonable to assume that’s the one we’re talking about. (I have AFib.)
I never personally experienced this, but this same procedure is used on U.S. Navy submarines. I believe body bags were kept on board for this, just in case. If not, then a couple of large, heavy-duty trash bags and duct tape would also work.