# Turn about's fair play, right? \[Passenger gropes TSA screener\]

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338 "2011-07-17T08:59:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/1 "2011-07-17T08:59:30Z")

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A woman in Phoenix was arrested for [groping a TSA screener](http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110716/US.Airport.Agent.Groping/).

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**Author:** ![nashiitashii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7c8e57/32.png) [@nashiitashii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nashiitashii)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/2 "2011-07-17T15:57:35Z")

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I don’t recall invasive TSA screenings requiring twisting of the breast. I understand not wanting to be subjected to invasive screenings, but really?

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/3 "2011-07-17T16:33:56Z")

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Yeah, we really need to draw the line at twisting bodily parts.

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**Author:** ![Al\_Bundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@Al\_Bundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al_Bundy)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/4 "2011-07-17T20:42:28Z")

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I predict this woman will be made an example of because of what she did. And she was foolish to talk about it and admit why she did it. I have long maintained that you can say anything you want if you know how to say it. And in this case you can do things to make your point without subjecting yourself to being on the sex offender list for 20 years. For example, the traveler could have felt “ticklish” at the TSA’s gropping and had a spastic arm movement that did the same thing disguised as trauma caused by the TSA’s own actions. I suppose she could even sue based upon the embarrassment caused. She could have turned this whole event around to her advantage. Now she’s in the toilet over it.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/5 "2011-07-18T06:09:58Z")

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That looks exactly like my Mother-in-law!  
:eek:

And I could actually see her doing something like that.  
:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/6 "2011-07-18T17:44:17Z")

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A passenger grew impatient/upset with a TSA screener and did a titty twister on her in Phoenix airport:

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> A 61-year-old Colorado woman was arrested in Phoenix on charges she groped a Transportation Security Administration airport security screener.
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> The woman, Yukari Mihamae, allegedly “refused to be go through passenger screening and became argumentative before she squeezed and twisted the agent’s breast with both hands,” The Associated Press writes.
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> Police were called to the scene and say Mihamae admitted to grabbing the agent. Authorities say Mihamae continued to argue with officers on the scene, and was eventually arrested. She now faces a felony count of sexual abuse.

[Full story here](http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/07/tsa-agent-grope-phoenix/177327/1).

Yukari Mihamae, a 61 year old self-employed businesswoman, is being hailed as a hero by some. I have to admit I feel a bit of joy at this, although I’m sure I shouldn’t.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/7 "2011-07-18T17:45:39Z")

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Another whirrled cup winner.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/8 "2011-07-18T17:51:25Z")

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I love keeping abreast of stories like this.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/9 "2011-07-18T18:02:37Z")

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> She now faces a felony count of sexual abuse.

Get a grip, people. 😉 It obviously wasn’t _sexual_, unless any touching of a breast or genital is sexual, in which case…

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/10 "2011-07-18T18:10:59Z")

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“Twisted with both hands.”

Too bad it wasn’t a male screener she had ahold of. Maybe that would teach those fucktards some manners.

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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/11 "2011-07-18T18:49:12Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> A passenger grew impatient/upset with a TSA screener and did a titty twister on her in Phoenix airport:
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> [Full story here](http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/post/2011/07/tsa-agent-grope-phoenix/177327/1).
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> Yukari Mihamae, a 61 year old self-employed businesswoman, is being hailed as a hero by some. I have to admit I feel a bit of joy at this, although I’m sure I shouldn’t.

You’re a [bit late](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=616646)

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/12 "2011-07-18T18:50:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> “Twisted with both hands.”
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> Too bad it wasn’t a male screener she had ahold of. Maybe that would teach those fucktards some manners.

Some people on FlyerTalk are of the opinion that _nothing_ can teach the screening clerks manners. For starters, so many of them need to be sent for retraining in their main tasks.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/13 "2011-07-18T19:01:42Z")

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Two threads on the same topic merged (with edited thread title).

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/14 "2011-07-18T19:30:17Z")

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One of the comments on this USAToday site I agree with: "When the TSA does it, it’s Security. When you do it, its a felony. "

I particualrly like how the story stresses that “Mihamae continued to argue with officers on the scene …” Because, we all know, only an evil person would argue with the TSA. Even questioning the TSA is wrong.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/15 "2011-07-18T19:43:05Z")

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That’s not the proper way to protest a law or regulation.

I heard one comedian in LA said that right before he was subjected to being frisked by the TSA, he got his girlfriend to give him a boner (don’t ask me how expected this to be accomplished while standing in line with 200 other people) and then let the TSA agent grasp it.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/16 "2011-07-18T19:48:57Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> Because, we all know, only an evil person would argue with the TSA.

Take out the sarcasm and replace “evil” with “stupid”, and I’ll agree with this. As unfortunate as the situation might be, they have 100% of the power, and passengers have none, and they can really ruin your vacation plans on a whim.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/17 "2011-07-18T19:54:51Z")

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> [@shiftless](#):
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> One of the comments on this USAToday site I agree with: "When the TSA does it, it’s Security. When you do it, its a felony. "

I fly _a lot_. I’ve never had my breasts twisted by a TSA agent. Not even once.

Are people really feeling sexually assaulted by TSA agents? I mean, it’s not pleasant to wait in line, go through a scanner, then get patted down. But I’ve certainly been actually groped by strange men and it’s far worse than anything the TSA has done by a factor of like, 100. I’ve never had a TSA agent twist my tits, but it has happened in night clubs. Several times.

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**Author:** ![Lucretia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/13edae/32.png) [@Lucretia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucretia)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/18 "2011-07-18T19:57:44Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> That’s not the proper way to protest a law or regulation.
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> I heard one comedian in LA said that right before he was subjected to being frisked by the TSA, he got his girlfriend to give him a boner (don’t ask me how expected this to be accomplished while standing in line with 200 other people) and then let the TSA agent grasp it.

Shouldn’t be that difficult. Some explicit dirty talk whispered into a guy’s ear does it pretty reliably, in my experience. And I think that’s a fabulous idea…every guy should go through security leading with a raging hard on.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/19 "2011-07-18T21:31:53Z")

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> [@Lucretia](#):
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> And I think that’s a fabulous idea…every guy should go through security leading with a raging hard on.

Obligatory [xkcd link](http://xkcd.com/779/). 😃

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**Author:** ![HamishBlake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@HamishBlake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HamishBlake)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-abouts-fair-play-right-passenger-gropes-tsa-screener/589338/20 "2011-07-18T22:11:26Z")

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She looks just like the kind of person who would do something like that.

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