# Turn off restaurant names

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 19, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350 "2018-06-19T01:30:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/101 "2018-06-20T15:13:16Z")

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> [@Rough\_Draft](#):
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> Around here there’s a local chain of Indian/Nepalese restaurants called Yak & Yeti.
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> The food is good, but I really don’t feel that either of those critters conjures up very appetizing thoughts.

I was ill during a trip down the Green River back in 2008 and was dubbed the ‘Yakkin’ Yeti by others on the river on account of 1) I was kayaking, 2) I was vomitting loudly and violently one night and 3) I’m huge.

So I would agree that those words in that order don’t exactly conjure up thoughts of food going _in_ my body.

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**Author:** ![Casparlatete](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/casparlatete/32/3377_2.png) [@Casparlatete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casparlatete)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/102 "2018-06-20T15:16:15Z")

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Bad Cafe Restaurant  
3,9  
15 Google reviews  
Restaurant  
Address: Badstraße 41, 72108 Rottenburg am Neckar  
Phone: 07472 9848312 This, in a nearby village to me. Though in fairness, Bad (bath) in German is pronounced more like “bat”

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/103 "2018-06-20T15:27:58Z")

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> **[Cross Cafe](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Cafe)**
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> Coordinates: .mw-parser-output .geo-default,.mw-parser-output .geo-dms,.mw-parser-output .geo-dec{display:inline}.mw-parser-output .geo-nondefault,.mw-parser-output .geo-multi-punct{display:none}.mw-parser-output .longitude,.mw-parser-output .latitude{white-space:nowrap}19°02′04″N 73°03′49″E﻿ / ﻿19.0343116°N 73.0635185°E﻿ / 19.0343116; 73.0635185
> Cross Cafe, formerly known as Hitlers' Cross or Hitler's Cross, was an Adolf Hitler-themed restaurant at Kharghar in Navi Mumbai, a satellite city of...

This place used to be named Hitler’s Cross.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/104 "2018-06-20T15:30:24Z")

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Off-topic, but **The Story of Little Black Sambo** was reissued with new illustrations in 2002. Fred Marcellino took Helen Bannerman’s text and set it to pictures set in South India (where tigers and a cuisine based on melted butter actually happen). It was re-titled as **The Story of Little Babaji.**

Bannerman’s story has an immense appeal for the little ones, who call for it to be read aloud over and over. It would be a shame to lose out on it because of the horrible and racist 1899 Africa-based pictures. Marcellino’s Indian characters are dignified and handsome, and his tigers are amusing and delightful.

If you are currently raising toddlers, or know someone who is, highly recommended.

> **[The Story of Little Babaji: Bannerman, Helen, Marcellino, Fred: 9780060080938:...](https://www.amazon.com/Story-Little-Babaji-Helen-Bannerman/dp/0060080930)**
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> The Story of Little Babaji \[Bannerman, Helen, Marcellino, Fred\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Story of Little Babaji

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/105 "2018-06-20T15:38:25Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Off-topic, but **The Story of Little Black Sambo** was reissued with new illustrations in 2002. Fred Marcellino took Helen Bannerman’s text and set it to pictures set in South India (where tigers and a cuisine based on melted butter actually happen). It was re-titled as **The Story of Little Babaji.**

Cool.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/106 "2018-06-20T15:44:19Z")

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There’s a place near me called _Uncle Jack’s Meat House_. It sounds like a horror movie title.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/107 "2018-06-20T15:50:25Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’ve never understood why they named a pizza after a German WWI flying ace. When I think of pizza, I definitely don’t think of Germany.

Thirty years or so ago, when I was still living in MPS/StP, they used to air locally-produced commercials that associated the pizza with the “romantic legend” of the Red Baron. What hat they pulled that out of, I don’t know, but that’s how it was.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/108 "2018-06-20T16:00:42Z")

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I know I’m the only one who makes this association, but whenever I see a Boston Market all I can think of is the song in the musical _1776_ where Edward Rutledge blasts the northerners from profiting from [“Molasses to Rum to Slaves.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeuaTpH6Ck0)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/109 "2018-06-20T16:03:03Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Thirty years or so ago, when I was still living in MPS/StP, they used to air locally-produced commercials that associated the pizza with the “romantic legend” of the Red Baron. What hat they pulled that out of, I don’t know, but that’s how it was.

When was Snoopy pretending to be fighting the Red Baron?

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/110 "2018-06-20T16:13:43Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’ve never understood why they named a pizza after a German WWI flying ace. When I think of pizza, I definitely don’t think of Germany.

I know a guy whose business name makes no sense. I asked him about it and he explained that he was a cheapskate. He had registered the name as a dba, paid all the fees, but the business failed. With his new business it was cheaper to use a name he’d already registered.

Just one possible explanation.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/111 "2018-06-20T16:14:42Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> When was Snoopy pretending to be fighting the Red Baron?

That started when I was in fifth or sixth grade, around 1966.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/112 "2018-06-20T16:18:26Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Off-topic, but **The Story of Little Black Sambo** was reissued with new illustrations in 2002. Fred Marcellino took Helen Bannerman’s text and set it to pictures set in South India (where tigers and a cuisine based on melted butter actually happen). It was re-titled as **The Story of Little Babaji.**

I was surprised to find out that [Bannerman’s original](http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/sambo.htm) was actually set in India. This was obscured by the fact that her illustrations of Sambo and his family (and almost all subsequent editions until recently) depict stereotypical Africans or African Americans. However, this text occurs in in the original version:

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> And they [the tigers] still ran faster and faster and faster, till they all just melted away, and there was nothing left but a great big pool of melted butter (or “ghi,” as it is called in India) round the foot of the tree.

Also there are of course the tigers themselves, and the fact that Sambo’s shoes (which have toes that curl up at the tip) were purchased in a Bazaar.

The Indian setting isn’t revisionism, just a reflection of the original text. The new versions just more accurately reflect the setting, and get rid of the offensive names.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/113 "2018-06-20T16:22:47Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> The Indian setting isn’t revisionism, just a reflection of the original text.

When I told my daughter about the story (and the classic cartoon based on it) a couple of years ago, she frowned and said “They don’t have tigers in Africa, do they?” I replied “Yeah, I wondered about that myself…”

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/114 "2018-06-20T16:23:51Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> That started when I was in fifth or sixth grade, around 1966.

According to Wiki, [Snoopy first fought the Red Baron on October 10, 1965.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoopy_vs._the_Red_Baron_(song)) The Royal Guardsmen had a huge hit with _Snoopy vs the Red Baron_ about a year later. Up until then, Manfred von Richthofen had been largely forgotten except for history buffs.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/115 "2018-06-20T16:35:23Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I’ve never understood why they named a pizza after a German WWI flying ace. When I think of pizza, I definitely don’t think of Germany.

Same here. But when my Wife and I traveled Bavaria, we found the pizza to be remarkably good.

Not sure if it’s because they are a stones throw away (by US standards) from Italy. Though pizza is more of a southern Italy thing. And Germany does bread very well.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/116 "2018-06-20T16:47:15Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> According to Wiki, [Snoopy first fought the Red Baron on October 10, 1965.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snoopy_vs._the_Red_Baron_(song)) The Royal Guardsmen had a huge hit with _Snoopy vs the Red Baron_ about a year later. Up until then, Manfred von Richthofen had been largely forgotten except for history buffs.

Sounds right. I sang the song for my classmates at an auditorium with a guest musician when I was in sixth grade.

Just like the centennial of the Civil War earlier in the decade, there was a lot of interest in WWI at the time, since 1964 marked the fiftieth anniversary of its start. During the winter of 1964–65, CBS aired _ **World War I** _, narrated by Robert Ryan (one of the best documentary series ever), on Tuesday evenings (opposite _ **Combat!** _ on ABC :mad:).

We also had WWI vets come in and speak to our classes. They looked OLD to me then, but I realize now I’m the same age today as they were then.

For Christmas of 1965, I got Edward Jablonski’s _ **The Great War: Stories of World War I** _ and Gene Gurney’s _ **Flying Aces of World War I** _, so I fer sure knew about Richthofen.

I also got MB’s _ **Dogfight** _, one of the coolest board games ever. I spent \*\*hours \*\*playing it with my friends!

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/117 "2018-06-20T17:17:33Z")

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Just outisde Starved Rock, along I-80, there’s a sign for a cupcake shop called “Two Girls and a Cupcake.” Now, I don’t know if that’s a tongue-in-cheek reference to the viral coprophilic “Two Girls, One Cup” (I certainly hope not), but I cannot pass that sign without that immediately coming to mind.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/118 "2018-06-20T17:37:48Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I was surprised to find out that [Bannerman’s original](http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/sambo.htm) was actually set in India. This was obscured by the fact that her illustrations of Sambo and his family (and almost all subsequent editions until recently) depict stereotypical Africans or African Americans…

We should always give credit to The Major from **Fawlty Towers** for setting the record straight on who’s a “wog” and who’s a “nigger.”

The sun will never set on the British Empire.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/119 "2018-06-20T18:42:39Z")

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I live in Elmont, NY home of The Belmont Race Track where we have a bar and grill named Trotters and another named Clydesdale’s. There is also a Shackleton’s. Makes me question what kind of meat they sell there and what I’ll be doing after I eat it.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/turn-off-restaurant-names/816350/120 "2018-06-20T19:28:54Z")

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I’ll bet that you complain about the roadside signs, “Food and Gas”, too. 🙂

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