The aforementioned use of force recommendations are for dealing with someone who is known to be a suicide bomber. The profiling part is to assist law enforcement in identifying persons who would rate closer scrutiny. It is in no way suggesting that persons who meet a certain profile should be summarily executed.
It’s not always clear who’s packing explosives, hence the profiling part. It’s just one more tool for LE types to do the job, that’s all.
Interesting issue.
I am more worried about what my government does than about most natural disasters, because the scope of governmental malfeasance is unbounded (though not, in a democracy, unconstrained). Possible exceptions include large meteors or (more likely) rare but large-scale epidemics.
Extremist Fundamentalists with Weapons of Mass Destruction scare me. Extremist Fundamentalists flying planes into buildings piss me off.
Suicide bomber-killers concern me deeply, but so do auto accidents and other modern hazards. Such risks are disturbing but hopefully manageable.
I hope the preceding is sensible.
What you are missing is the fact that there is one dead fucking Brazilian who wasn’t a bomber but was shot dead anyway on no better grounds than he lived in the same aprtment block as a suspect, MAY (it is disputed) have been wearing a bulky jacket in weather than was hot for the UK but cool for Brazil and MAY (that too is disputed) have ran from a bunch of armed men who it seems more likely didn’t identify themselves as police and was shot dead while being restrained. Fat lot of fucking comfort his family is gathering from those guidelines.
Thank og they conceal the explosives that they are carrying with sandwich boards that read “I am a suicide bomber. Please crowd around me.”
[hijack]Where did you live in Washington County? I grew up in Union Township, close to Finleyville.
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Well, there’s one very germane point that didn’t get mentioned … how much do you look like a Middle Eastern guy, uglybeech? ‘Cause even though it’s not mentioned, I bet it’s in a lot of cops’ minds when they are doing security work. If you don’t look Middle Eastern, I think you have very little to worry about. If you look obviously female, I don’t thnink you have much to worry about.
Yeah, it’s racial profiling, but given the makeup of our current rash of terrorists, it’s gonna happen.
Bizarre? Really? Let me ask you a question: how many terrorist attack have we had on the US in the last fifty years? Now, in that same time period, how many incidents of police brutality, malfeasance, or criminal incompetence?
What’s truly bizarre is the number of people who have uncritically swallowed the idea that terrorism is the biggest threat currently facing the American public. I spend more time worried about being struck by lightning than I do about being blown up by terrorists.
It might be. Not the terrorist actions but the reactions by governments and the public.
Probably. Considering that the profile was lifted from the Israelis, it may be downplaying ethnic appearance since it’s probably not all that specific an indicator in the middle east.
But my point is that profiling is a crappy enough system when its used to determine who has to be patted down at the airport - but for it to be the basis for deciding when to shoot someone in the head? Let’s just say I’ve got some problems with that.
You’ll get no argument from me that the London shooting wasn’t justified. However, my point remains that despite what the news article in the OP, as well as the OP itself seem to suggest, those guidelines in no way recommend that deadly force be used based soley on profiling.
The sarcasm notwithstanding, that’s a valid point. Most times a suicide bomber will go unnoticed until it is too late. That’s why they use the tactic, it’s effective and it’s hard to stop. Hence the profiling tool. However, it is not impossible for a suicide bomber to be positively identified prior to detonating the weapon. Therefore, given this possible scenario, those guidelines make recommendations on how to react.
Unfortunately, the guidelines could result in more innocent people getting killed, or the suicide bombers waiting until the temperature drops and most people are wearing heavy coats. It’s a lot easier to use these guidelines in a constantly warm climate that is under frequent attack from suicide bombers. It increases the odds of success.
I just wonder how much “safety” is worth.
Well thankfully, none of these new rules or guidelines changes anything here in Nevada.
Here, cops can shoot you any time they want, :eek: as long as they testify at the coroner’s inquest that they thought that you might pose a danger at some point, in some way. Even if you were unarmed, compliant, and on your knees with your back to the officer, in the act of surrendering. Just ask Orlando Barlow… oh wait, you can’t; he’s dead.
The qualifier of a heavy jacket or a backpack doesn’t change anything. Watch your ass, yo.