# TV couplings: He/she is so wrong for you!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 2, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806 "2020-01-02T21:52:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/21 "2020-01-03T17:26:51Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Alice and Ralph. Why would a beautiful woman like her stay married to that fat. lazy slob who threatens her with violence at every turn?

Well, similarly, Carrie and Doug on ‘King of Queens’ - not that he was threatening, but he was such a manipulative dumb ass…she’s always surprised and irritated when he does something stupid. Every other show, she shrieks 'I can’t BELIEVE you did \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_(fill in the blank). Really? :rolleyes:

Chelsea and Charlie on ‘Two and a Half Men’ - what, oh what, did she see in him? I was relieved when the wedding fell through.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/22 "2020-01-03T17:29:55Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Handsome astronaut and Air Force officer not good enough?😕

No way. Gotta be a Marine in his dress blues! 🙂

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**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/23 "2020-01-03T20:53:11Z")

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> [@rsat3acr](#):
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> That was the actors not the characters

Which is what I said.

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**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/24 "2020-01-03T20:57:15Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Deb and Raymond on ‘Everyone Loves Raymond’. She was going to end up married to a big fat mommy-obsessed baby and have his family from hell barging in her house every day. What was she thinking? There were plenty of warning signs.

Well. . . he should never have married her in my opinion. She was an evil harpy that plagued his life. I kept wishing he would kill her frankly. That’s should have been the finale!

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/25 "2020-01-03T20:58:20Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> But he found her, so he got to keep her. Sometimes life ain’t fair.

You got that right. Almost makes me want to become an actor.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/26 "2020-01-03T21:04:01Z")

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Mark Greene and Elizabeth Corday on ER.

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**Author:** ![moojja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@moojja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moojja)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/27 "2020-01-03T21:15:37Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Same for Roger and Jessica Rabbit.

That made sense, while she is prettier by human standards; he’s a huge movie star/comedian with his own movie series.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/28 "2020-01-03T21:56:09Z")

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> [@moojja](#):
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> That made sense, while she is prettier by human standards; he’s a huge movie star/comedian with his own movie series.

And what Jessica said: “He makes me laugh.”

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**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/29 "2020-01-03T23:32:36Z")

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> [@tullsterx](#):
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> Well. . . he should never have married her in my opinion. She was an evil harpy that plagued his life. I kept wishing he would kill her frankly. That’s should have been the finale!

ok. he was a real catch, she didn’t appreciate him, sure… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/30 "2020-01-03T23:37:49Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> And what Jessica said: “He makes me laugh.”

Hey, this actually works sometimes. 😉

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/31 "2020-01-03T23:52:47Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> Well, similarly, Carrie and Doug on ‘King of Queens’ - not that he was threatening, but he was such a manipulative dumb ass…she’s always surprised and irritated when he does something stupid. Every other show, she shrieks 'I can’t BELIEVE you did \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_(fill in the blank). Really? :rolleyes:

I don’t find Doug similar to Ralph at all. Well, except for being a fat slob with a hot wife, that is. I never understood why Ralph threatening to beat his wife each and every week was laughed at and dismissed so readily. Maybe because when it was on during the 70’s in re-runs I was a pre-teen with a beloved aunt whose husband beat on her frequently, I found Ralph a scary villain.

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**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/32 "2020-01-03T23:58:43Z")

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Another doomed relationship: Gidget and Moondoggie from the “Gidget” TV series. We are supposed to buy that Moondoggie, a handsome guy going to Princeton is deeply in love with a girl who:  
Is only 15(!)  
Has only known him for two months  
Is freely allowed to date any guy she wants  
Lives in Los Angeles  
I hate to break this to you Gidget, but you’re his [beard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_(companion)) not his girlfriend.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/33 "2020-01-04T00:03:17Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> I don’t find Doug similar to Ralph at all. Well, except for being a fat slob with a hot wife, that is. I never understood why Ralph threatening to beat his wife each and every week was laughed at and dismissed so readily. Maybe because when it was on during the 70’s in re-runs I was a pre-teen with a beloved aunt whose husband beat on her frequently, I found Ralph a scary villain.

Watching that show through the lens of 2020 is certainly cringe worthy.

But I would argue, that at the time the show came out, it was rather progressive. Alice clearly wasn’t afraid of Ralph. Her sharp wit and cynic retorts were proof of that.

And she was clearly the one calling the shots in that relationship. Even if by manipulative means.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/34 "2020-01-04T00:31:49Z")

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> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Alice and Ralph. Why would a beautiful woman like her stay married to that fat. lazy slob who threatens her with violence at every turn?

However, the original Alice, [played by Pert Kelton](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x68vodm) in the skits on _The Jackie Gleason Show_ that were spun off as the series, was quite the battle-axe herself. Ralph wasn’t quite as fat, so they were a closer match, and both characters were much nastier. (Audrey Meadow took over the role because Kelton was blacklisted, even though she wasn’t physically suitable for the role as originally conceived.)

Of course, Alice knew that Ralph’s threats were completely empty and wasn’t frightened of him in the least. She was a bit of a bitch herself, fat-shaming and belittling Ralph at every opportunity, even when he wasn’t being a jerk.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/35 "2020-01-04T03:29:25Z")

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Chandler and Janice from Friends.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/36 "2020-01-04T03:32:07Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Chandler and Janice from Friends.

The only person who thought they made a good couple was Janice.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/37 "2020-01-04T05:16:04Z")

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I stopped watching “Arrow” when they killed off Laurel in season 4, but I’ve since learned that Katie Cassidy didn’t really leave the show (😕) and have been rewatching it from the beginning over the past few months, and I’m right about where I left off now. And again, I really don’t get Oliver/Felicity. I like both characters, but…

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/38 "2020-01-04T06:53:07Z")

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> [@tullsterx](#):
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> Well. . . he should never have married her in my opinion. She was an evil harpy that plagued his life. I kept wishing he would kill her frankly. That’s should have been the finale!

In what universe was Debra an evil harpy? Did you watch the same show as everyone else?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/39 "2020-01-04T09:06:52Z")

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> [@installLSC](#):
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> Another doomed relationship: Gidget and Moondoggie from the “Gidget” TV series. We are supposed to buy that Moondoggie, a handsome guy going to Princeton is deeply in love with a girl who:  
> Is only 15(!)  
> Has only known him for two months  
> Is freely allowed to date any guy she wants  
> Lives in Los Angeles  
> I hate to break this to you Gidget, but you’re his [beard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_(companion)) not his girlfriend.

That’s probably why she wound up joining the convent.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-couplings-he-she-is-so-wrong-for-you/845806/40 "2020-01-04T09:09:19Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Watching that show through the lens of 2020 is certainly cringe worthy.
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> But I would argue, that at the time the show came out, it was rather progressive. Alice clearly wasn’t afraid of Ralph. Her sharp wit and cynic retorts were proof of that.
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> And she was clearly the one calling the shots in that relationship. Even if by manipulative means.

Also, FWIW, Steve Allen got the hotter sister…

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