# TV hits that suck(ed)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 15, 2003, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566 "2003-03-15T08:15:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/41 "2003-03-16T06:09:51Z")

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You should watch The Planets Funniest Animals on Animal Planet. The jokes that the host, Matt Galant, say, make Saget’s jokes look brilliant in comparison.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/42 "2003-03-16T06:36:39Z")

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The funny thing about Saget is that before ‘Full House’ he was just about the dirtiest comedian out there. It was kinda funny hearing stories about people who had seen ‘Full House’ going to see Saget and walking out after 2 minutes :D.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/43 "2003-03-16T06:43:01Z")

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Ever see Saget in **Half Baked**?

Saget:

**"Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that’s an addiction. You ever suck some dick for marijuana?"**

(I pulled the quote from [IMDB.COM](http://IMDB.COM))

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/44 "2003-03-16T07:51:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Moe \*  
> \*\*Funny you should say that, because I was actually going to mention _That 70’s Show_ as well. I just figured I used up my share of rant for this thread on my first post. \*\*

Here’s a little extra rant to go: the apostrophe goes before the 70, not after.

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**Author:** ![Darkrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Darkrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkrabbit)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/45 "2003-03-16T08:35:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ISiddiqui \*  
> \*\*The funny thing about Saget is that before ‘Full House’ he was just about the dirtiest comedian out there. It was kinda funny hearing stories about people who had seen ‘Full House’ going to see Saget and walking out after 2 minutes :D. \*\*

I felt sad for Saget on Full House … I saw his stand-up and to see him dulled to nothing was depressing!

Anyone whom hates Saget should see his stand up … he’s incredibly funny! Dave Coulier, too! Dave had this whole routine on farts that was hysterical, saw it on HBO back in the 80’s …

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/46 "2003-03-16T16:32:27Z")

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I don’t know, I kind of liked full house when it was on. But are you only complaining about his humor because he wasn’t raunchy any more? Or did you have other problems with it?

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**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/47 "2003-03-16T17:55:02Z")

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Perfect Strangers

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/48 "2003-03-16T18:22:25Z")

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> But why do you, and everybody else bring up Veronica’s Closet? That wasn’t a hit, was it? I thought it went away rather quickly.

It lasted three seasons according to [epguides.com](http://epguides.com). Ended in 2000. And you know what? I _still_ see it on TV. My local FOX affiliate plays it Sunday nights as soon as the national programming is over. Perhaps that’s why it bothers me so much. Shows that lasted 66 episodes and sucked in the first place don’t belong in syndication.

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**Author:** ![Odieman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Odieman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odieman)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/49 "2003-03-16T19:59:32Z")

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Good god, how could we get this far in the thread with nobody mentioning “Family Matters”…someone once said hell was a place where the tv could only get one channel , couldn’t be turned off and “Family Matters” was playing 24 hours a day…Urkel :shudder:…

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/50 "2003-03-16T20:22:21Z")

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I actually like bad TV shows. I watch and I know it’s bad, but I laugh anyway. Oh, that’s right, they should be bad sitcoms. I can’t sit through bad action shows, even if they are pretending to be funny. Dukes of Hazzard, Charlie’s Angels and The A-Team.

There have been recent ones, but I wouldn’t call them “hits” Cleopatra 2525, Silk Stalkings, VIP, Fast Lane to name the few that my teenaged son and wanna-be teenaged husband just loooooove. They watched Baywatch too, but they didn’t think it was a _good_ show. Just very jiggley.

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**Author:** ![slackergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@slackergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slackergirl)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/51 "2003-03-16T21:25:32Z")

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I never understood the appeal of Seinfeld. I think I’ve only actually sat through two or three episodes, and usually when somebody else was trying to convince me of how great it was. The characters were all just too irritating and whiny and stupid for me to get into it.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/52 "2003-03-16T21:59:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*I actually like bad TV shows. I watch and I know it’s bad, but I laugh anyway. Oh, that’s right, they should be bad sitcoms. I can’t sit through bad action shows, even if they are pretending to be funny. Dukes of Hazzard, Charlie’s Angels and The A-Team.
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> There have been recent ones, but I wouldn’t call them “hits” Cleopatra 2525, Silk Stalkings, VIP, Fast Lane to name the few that my teenaged son and wanna-be teenaged husband just loooooove. They watched Baywatch too, but they didn’t think it was a _good_ show. Just very jiggley. \*\*

I never was interested in Baywatch either, or, as I called it, T&A watch.  
Charlies Angels would pretty much fall under the detective shows of the 70’s I talked about earlier. Shows like that, Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries, Barnaby Jones…  
Hey, did anybody notice, in Barnaby Jones, the very few episodes I watched, it seemed like Buddy Epson just sat behind his desk making phone calls all day, while the two younger characters did all the work, and at the end he’d just show up.  
Come to think of it, a lot of mystery and detective shows were pretty bad. Murder She Wrote, everywhere Jessica went, all the cops and detectives were inept. I never bothered even trying to watch the Father Doweling Mysteries. I watched one or two episodes of Diagnosis Murder :rolleyes:  
Oh oh, I’m rambling, so I’ll just say one more thing, then shut up. Two more “Hits” I didn’t like.

1. Mr. Belvedere. It seemed to be like a bad and pale imitation of shows like Growing Pains and Family Ties.
2. DR. Quinn, Medicine Woman. I don’t even know where to begin with this one.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/53 "2003-03-16T22:02:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by slackergirl \*  
> \*\*I never understood the appeal of Seinfeld. I think I’ve only actually sat through two or three episodes, and usually when somebody else was trying to convince me of how great it was. The characters were all just too irritating and whiny and stupid for me to get into it. \*\*

I never watched it when it was being made, but now it’s on at a time when, nothing else is really on, so I watch it. It has its moments, but I don’t think it’s as great as everybody says. And a lot of the “Talked about eppisodes” didn’t seem like a big deal to me. But, that’s just my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/54 "2003-03-16T22:13:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Biggirl \*  
> \*\*I actually like bad TV shows. I watch and I know it’s bad, but I laugh anyway. Oh, that’s right, they should be bad sitcoms. I can’t sit through bad action shows, even if they are pretending to be funny. Dukes of Hazzard, Charlie’s Angels and The A-Team.
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For me it is easier to sit through bad action shows than sit-coms. I did enjoy Dukes of Hazzard and the A-Team, though shows like Family Matters, Perfect Strangers to me are unwatchable.

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**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/55 "2003-03-16T22:14:52Z")

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Most dramas from the 1970s not named “The Rockford Files” had a lot of problems.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/56 "2003-03-16T22:29:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> \*\*Here’s a little extra rant to go: the apostrophe goes before the 70, not after. \*\*

Do’h!

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**Author:** ![Bishamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@Bishamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bishamon)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/57 "2003-03-17T00:49:01Z")

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I’m going to have to say _The Simpsons_.

_ducks flying bottle_

Ok, just kidding. I’m going to have to agree with _Seinfeld_ as well. Sometimes it’s on as background noise and when I take a moment to watch the characters are such annoying self-centered twits I can’t help but to totally dislike them and feel nothing but satisfaction when something awful happens to them. Which means that I’m taking television _waaaay_ too seriously, I know.

Another one I don’t get is any of the _CSI_ incarnations. While I feel that the plot twists are somewhat fun, they aren’t as intelligent or twisted as they are on _Law and Order_. Also I feel the dialog is flat and stilted and often delivered in such an uneffected manner as to also remove any sort of feeling for the character. I realize I might be speaking heresy, but I’m standing by my opinions here.

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/58 "2003-03-17T01:52:58Z")

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In general, '50s TV comedies are almost impossible for younger viewers to even wrap their minds around - they can’t believe that there was a time that was even remotely like those shows indicate.

That said, the appeal of **I Love Lucy** absolutely boggles my mind. It’s the WORST of that era of shows, IMHO.

**Home Improvement** was unbearably bad.

**Malcolm in the Middle** stinks almost every time I happen to watch a few minutes of it.

**Will and Grace** is tiresome. Not awful, just tiresome.

ALL of the reality shows make me hide my face in embarrassment when I see even a commercial for them.

hrh

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/59 "2003-03-17T06:39:01Z")

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Wow, so many Will and Grace haters. I’ve only started watching it recently myself, but I like it so far.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-hits-that-suck-ed/161566/60 "2003-03-17T07:16:21Z")

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Okay, want one that (I don’t think) hasn’t been mentioned here?

_Cheers_

Why this was a hit, and why it had to go for eleven years is beyond me. Not one of those characters was likable, or anybody I would want to associate with. I kept hoping that someone would take Carla’s tray and wrap it around her head. And bitch-slap Diane, kick Sam in the nuts, and slam Norm’s head in the door for good measure.

I remember the finale, or more accurately, the _Tonight Show_ “interview” with the cast. They were all drunk as skunks, completely unprofessional. How appropriate.

I must say, the “Must See TV” attitude people had about _Cheers_ kept me from watching _Friends_ for years, which I regret because I love that show now!

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