# TV LAND needs to go \[Fornicate\] itself **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 19, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549 "2011-07-19T05:42:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/1 "2011-07-19T05:42:39Z")
When it first came on, over 15 years ago, I really liked the cable channel [TV Land](http://www.tvland.com/). Old TV shows, Retromercials, etc… Now we get 24 hour repeats of 3’s Company. Who Gives a F\*\*K??? There are a [lot](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqx-D0440pA&feature=related) of shows from the past that they could show instead of a handful of shows. The 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s, 90’s, etc.!!! 3’s Company is a fine show from the past to broadcast, but there are zillions [YES, **ZILLIONS!**] more. WTF???😕:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/2 "2011-07-19T06:24:55Z")
[Channel drift](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_drift) sucks. No station will stay the same forever. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/3 "2011-07-19T11:32:32Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > [Channel drift](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_drift) sucks. No station will stay the same forever. Comedy Central is the only specialized cable channel I can think of that hasn’t suffered from channel drift. Oh, it’s programming has certainly changed over the past two decades. But they still stick to comedy. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/4 "2011-07-19T11:39:44Z")
> [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](#): > > [Channel drift](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_drift) sucks. No station will stay the same forever. It’s not channel drift that **pkbites** is complaining about - it’s lack of variety in their chosen niche. I’m not sure either channel drift or lack of variety is a valid complaint, though. The link he posted says that in addition to Three’s Company, TV Land also airs (list edited by me to only pre-2000 shows): The A-Team, All in the Family, The Andy Griffith Show, The Beverly Hillbillies, The Bob Newhart Show, Bonanza, The Brady Bunch, The Carol Burnett Show, Charlie’s Angels, Cheers, The Cosby Show, Fantasy Island, Gilligan’s Island, Good Times, Green Acres, Gunsmoke, Hogan’s Heroes, Home Improvement, I Dream of Jeannie, I Love Lucy, The Jeffersons, Leave it to Beaver, Little House on the Prairie, MASH, The Nanny, Roseanne, Sanford and Son, and Star Trek. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/5 "2011-07-19T11:50:43Z")
Looking at the schedule for the next twelve hours today, I don’t think the complaints have any basis _at all_: 8:00am All in the Family 8:30am Sanford and Son 9:00am The Jeffersons 9:30am I dream of Jeannie 10:00am I Dream of Jeannie 11:00am All in the Family 11:30am Sanford and Son 12:00pm Gunsmoke 1:00pm Gunsmoke 2:00pm Bonanza 3:00pm Bonanza 4:00pm Bonanza 5:00pm Good Times 5:30pm The Jeffersons 6:00pm Sanford and Son 6:30pm Sanford and Son 7:00pm Sanford and Son 7:30pm All in the Family That’s seven different TV shows in 12 hours, all fitting the “Classic” description and not one of them is Three’s Company. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/6 "2011-07-19T12:10:20Z")
TVLand isn’t a big offender. I don’t mind the marathons they have once in a while, generally it’s to celebrate the anniversary of a show or commemorate the death of the star of the show. Compared to GSN, they’re pretty good about sticking to their format. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/7 "2011-07-19T12:20:02Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Comedy Central is the only specialized cable channel I can think of that hasn’t suffered from channel drift. Oh, it’s programming has certainly changed over the past two decades. But they still stick to comedy. Turner Classic Movies has barely changed its programming over the years, and sticks closely to the same format. TV Land has given up on most TV shows from the 60s and earlier. That’s because the audience doesn’t remember them and, other than “I Love Lucy,” refuses to watch anything in black and white. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/8 "2011-07-19T12:33:34Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > TV Land has given up on most TV shows from the 60s and earlier. That’s because the audience doesn’t remember them and, other than “I Love Lucy,” refuses to watch anything in black and white. That’s not true, either. Look at the schedule I posted. Out of 12 hours of programming, SIX hours are shows that aired before 1970, three hours of which are shows that had a significant portion of their eisodes filmed in black and white. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/9 "2011-07-19T15:52:11Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Looking at the schedule for the next twelve hours today, I don’t think the complaints have any basis _at all_: > > 8:00am All in the Family > 8:30am Sanford and Son > 9:00am The Jeffersons > 9:30am I dream of Jeannie > 10:00am I Dream of Jeannie > 11:00am All in the Family > 11:30am Sanford and Son > 12:00pm Gunsmoke > 1:00pm Gunsmoke > 2:00pm Bonanza > 3:00pm Bonanza > 4:00pm Bonanza > 5:00pm Good Times > 5:30pm The Jeffersons > 6:00pm Sanford and Son > 6:30pm Sanford and Son > 7:00pm Sanford and Son > 7:30pm All in the Family Too bad Osama’s dead, this would have been fitting punishment. “Another ‘Bonanza’ repeat for _you_, terror-boy.” _“AIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/10 "2011-07-19T15:57:52Z")
I thought this was going to be a complaint about their original programming. _Original programming_ on TVLand? Get out of the city. Whatchutalkin’ 'bout? Kiss my grits. Sit on it, Malph. Hey, hey, hey! Original programming goes against everything TVLand’s founding fathers believed in. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/11 "2011-07-19T16:30:27Z")
We recently discovered MeTV (Memorable Entertainment, ugh), which carries loads of TV shows from the 60s and 70s and beyond: Hogan’s Heros, Beverly Hillbillies, Bob Newhart, Dick Van Dyke, Mary Tyler Moore, Combat, Wild Wild West, etc. To me it looks like the original version of TV-Land. MeTV is being rebroadcast as one of our local station’s digital channels, and shows up on cable somewhere around channel 305. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/12 "2011-07-19T16:49:22Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Looking at the schedule for the next twelve hours today, I don’t think the complaints have any basis _at all_: > > 8:00am All in the Family > 8:30am Sanford and Son > 9:00am The Jeffersons > 9:30am I dream of Jeannie > 10:00am I Dream of Jeannie > 11:00am All in the Family > 11:30am Sanford and Son > 12:00pm Gunsmoke > 1:00pm Gunsmoke > 2:00pm Bonanza > 3:00pm Bonanza > 4:00pm Bonanza > 5:00pm Good Times > 5:30pm The Jeffersons > 6:00pm Sanford and Son > 6:30pm Sanford and Son > 7:00pm Sanford and Son > 7:30pm All in the Family > That’s seven different TV shows in 12 hours, all fitting the “Classic” description and not one of them is Three’s Company. And they’ve been playing those 7 “different” shows for the last decade. It’s b:oring. There are an innumerable amount of shows from the 50’s-80’s that they could at least play occasionally but don’t. Plus they’ve stopped playing retromercials. My complaint is valid. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/13 "2011-07-19T17:18:31Z")
So your complaint is that TV Land is rerunning old TV shows, and that you want some new reruns rather than the reruns which are being re-run? :dubious: What do you do when you listen to a classic rock station? Do you complain when they play the Beatles because, damnit, they were playing the Beatles _last_ year. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/14 "2011-07-19T17:26:12Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Comedy Central is the only specialized cable channel I can think of that hasn’t suffered from channel drift. Oh, it’s programming has certainly changed over the past two decades. But they still stick to comedy. Turner Classic Movies has also remained steady. AMC, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/15 "2011-07-19T17:28:19Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > So your complaint is that TV Land is rerunning old TV shows, and that you want some new reruns rather than the reruns which are being re-run? :dubious: > > What do you do when you listen to a classic rock station? Do you complain when they play the Beatles because, damnit, they were playing the Beatles _last_ year. If they kept playing just the Beatles every 7 songs, yes. I don’t understand why you guys are so resistant to my call for more variety on a channel I am paying for. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/16 "2011-07-19T17:36:18Z")
I don’t usually have the TV on more than two hours in the evening. I like old shows, but they never mix up the schedule, and so I only see All in the Family or Everybody Loves Raymond whenever I surf past TV Land. Would it kill them to rotate the series they show during “prime Time”? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/17 "2011-07-19T17:58:30Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > Would it kill them to rotate the series they show during “prime Time”? I’d love to see them re-create classic primetime nights of programming in toto: CBS’s Saturday night lineup from the mid 70s, ABC’s Tuesday night line up from the late 70s, NBC’s Thursday night lineup from the mid 80s, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/18 "2011-07-19T21:52:19Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > What do you do when you listen to a classic rock station? Do you complain when they play the Beatles because, damnit, they were playing the Beatles _last_ year. I do. I complain that out of everything available in the ‘Classic Rock’ genre, they have about 30-40 songs that are on constant rotation and have been for the past 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/19 "2011-07-20T01:48:33Z")
I remember reading a few years ago about an oldies station that conducted a lot of focus groups to find out what its listeners wanted. The answer came back loud and clear: more Motown! So the station added a lot more Motown and soul artists from the 60’s and 70’s. They started hour-long blocks of all-Motown. Sure enough, the ratings dropped like a rock. They called back all the focus groups to find out what went wrong. Turns out that when people said “more Motown” they had about 10 specific songs in mind – a couple of Supremes, a couple of Four Tops, a Marvin Gaye. Aretha’s _Respect_ was gold, but not _Baby I Love You_. The station eventually cut back to about 30-40 Motown/soul songs, carefully sprinkling them throughout the day. Ratings went back up. Moral: my classics ain’t your classics, and neither of ours are TVLand’s. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549/20 "2011-07-20T04:27:01Z")
Carl: Hey I got a question. How come oldies stations are always playing the same songs? How bout some NEW oldies, geniuses!? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-land-needs-to-go-fornicate-itself/589549.md?page=2)