# TV romances that the show kept pushing despite the fact that it sucked

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**Created:** [June 7, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712 "2016-06-07T03:30:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/21 "2016-06-07T12:22:31Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> That just reinforces the dumbness of it. It’s a “bone a hot girl” curse, not a “true love” curse.

Except he \*did \*love Cordelia - he had just realized that at the end of the previous season. “True love” doesn’t mean “one true love”, you know. At the very least, he loved her as a friend.

Remember, he did bone a hot girl in Season 5 (the werewolf chick), to no ill effect.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/22 "2016-06-07T12:39:46Z")

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Ross and Rachel. Who are they kidding? That dork with the embodiment of Venus? No way.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/23 "2016-06-07T12:52:32Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Nah - Robin and Barney worked, IMHO. Robin and Ted didn’t.

I agree–ignoring the single stupid “No more surprises, EVER!” episode where Robin basically told Barney “Yeah…all those things you did to make me fall in love with you? Stop doing those.” (it was one of the last half-dozen episodes), Robin and Barney were great. Robin and Ted just sucked in every respect after the third episode of the show.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/24 "2016-06-07T12:56:43Z")

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Oh, and on True Blood, Vampire Bill and “Sookeh” sucked. He was a creepy stalker jackass, her (already none too shining) intellect dropped 50 points when she was around him. I wasn’t a huge Sookie/Eric fan, but at least Eric respected her sorta. Bill? He was a slightly more in check version of the crazy british vamp that held Tara hostage.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/25 "2016-06-07T13:10:24Z")

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> Chakotay and 7 of 9 on Star Trek Voyager. That came out of nowhere and made no sense. There was no chemistry there. Didn’t help that Chakotay was as dull a character you could ever create.

I’ll see your Chakotay and Seven of Nine and raise you Troi and Worf. She must have really had a case of the galloping hornies to get involved in that!

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/26 "2016-06-07T14:04:10Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Ross and Rachel. Who are they kidding? That dork with the embodiment of Venus? No way.

That nice guy with that stuck up rich bitch? No way.

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/27 "2016-06-07T14:48:35Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Robin and Ted on _How I Met Your Mother_. I mean, obviously. The show’s insistence that they were meant to be together - nine seasons of evidence to the contrary - made the entire series pointless, and caused large swatches of it to be utterly unwatchable in retrospect. Perhaps the worse example in television history.

Cannot agree more strongly! Not only did they spend nine years demonstrating why that relationship doesn’t work, they then spent the first half of the final season showing Ted finally getting all the way over her.

And I’m still not over that character assassination job they did on Victoria, when they brought her back; I’m halfway convinced that they were just salty that she won that one “Who would you pick to be the Mother?” poll.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/28 "2016-06-07T15:00:23Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I’ll see your Chakotay and Seven of Nine and raise you Troi and Worf. She must have really had a case of the galloping hornies to get involved in that!

You ever hear the phrase “Ribbed for her pleasure”? Apparently, he had that going for him to the max.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/29 "2016-06-07T15:04:47Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Except he \*did \*love Cordelia - he had just realized that at the end of the previous season. “True love” doesn’t mean “one true love”, you know. At the very least, he loved her as a friend.

So the curse didn’t recognize true love until the boning? That’s my point. If it’s a “love” curse then it should happen when love happens, and that doesn’t necessarily happen in conjunction with bone. It can happen long before or long after the first bone.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/30 "2016-06-07T15:10:33Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You ever hear the phrase “Ribbed for her pleasure”? Apparently, he had that going for him to the max.

In her position ( **heh, heh** 😃 ), I’d insist he wear a paper bag over his head as well!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/31 "2016-06-07T15:15:29Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> In the series _ **That Girl** _ (I’m old), it seemed like the boyfriend was perpetually pissed about something. She should have gotten tired of that.

Yeah, no kidding! Even as a very little kid, I remember thinking, “She needs to get rid of that asshole!”

When MASH had Hawkeye and Margaret hook up for one episode, that was hard to watch.

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/32 "2016-06-07T15:20:29Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I’ll see your Chakotay and Seven of Nine and raise you Troi and Worf. She must have really had a case of the galloping hornies to get involved in that!

You do not talk about my Worfie in that manner. He won _champion standing_ in the Bat’leth tournament for Kahless’ sake.

> [@terentii](#):
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> In her position ( **heh, heh** 😃 ), I’d insist he wear a paper bag over his head as well!

That’s it, Bat’leths at dawn!

> [@Acsenray](#):
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> So the curse didn’t recognize true love until the boning? That’s my point. If it’s a “love” curse then it should happen when love happens, and that doesn’t necessarily happen in conjunction with bone. It can happen long before or long after the first bone.

IIRC, the curse activated when he experiences a moment of true happiness. Boning the lovely Cordelia should qualify.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/33 "2016-06-07T15:27:42Z")

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I never bought the Brenda/Fritz pairing on _The Closer_. She’d use him, she’d lie by omission, she did whatever she damned-well wanted to do, figuring she could fix things or apologize afterwards. He shoulda dumped her _way early_ in their relationship. She was selfish and he was too good for her. And I only watched the stupid show because my husband liked it…

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/34 "2016-06-07T15:45:50Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Ugh. I stopped watching the show because of this. Danny is completely incompatible with her. And he keeps imposing his religion on her obnoxiously.

Well, spoiler on that…

They broke up! Come back to the show because she is dating again and it’s funny! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/35 "2016-06-07T16:06:38Z")

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Hmmmm … Good to know

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/36 "2016-06-07T16:10:26Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> In the series _ **That Girl** _ (I’m old), it seemed like the boyfriend was perpetually pissed about something. She should have gotten tired of that.

Huh! I always thought he was more than tolerant of her eccentricities. In the episode where he had a hot secretary who was trying to seduce him, I kept wishing he would jump her when they went on assignment together. Of course, he never, ever would… :dubious:

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/37 "2016-06-07T16:12:54Z")

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Lots of Bangel haters on this board. 😛

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/38 "2016-06-07T16:13:44Z")

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> That’s it, Bat’leths at dawn!

Only a Klingon would bring a Bat’leth to a disruptor fight! :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/39 "2016-06-07T16:20:06Z")

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Niles and CC on _The Nanny_. She even ends up pregnant by him. That marriage would end in a bitter divorce before the cake was sliced and the last thing either of them needed was a kid.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-romances-that-the-show-kept-pushing-despite-the-fact-that-it-sucked/756712/40 "2016-06-07T17:32:59Z")

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> You do not talk about my Worfie in that manner. He won _champion standing_ in the Bat’leth tournament for Kahless’ sake.

Indeed. Worf was quite the romantic. I loved him and Jadzia.

On the other hand, I never bought Kira/Odo. I always thought she saw him as a friend and the chemistry didn’t quite work for me.

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