# TV series that have fallen the farthest **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 11, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089 "2008-07-11T04:26:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/81 "2008-07-14T21:09:48Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] But I have already seen the 2-parter with the brilliant and never hammy Quentin Tarantino. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Which is why you have to watch season 3, for the return appearance! Plus, Ricky Gervaise. I’m just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/82 "2008-07-14T21:17:55Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] They always lived in Milwaukee. Richie and Potsie once dated LaVerne & Shirley. [/QUOTE] I thought Richie and \*Fonzie \*dated Laverne and Shirley. Fonzie fixed Richie up with Shirley and told him to give the signal when he felt comfortable, Richie says: _OK Fonz_ and Fonzie yells to Laverne: _The kid says OK_ - and they split, leaving Richie and Shirley alone together. Shirley demonstrates how she punched Laverne and accidentally knocks Richie down, beer goes everywhere and just then his folks come home. That is how I remember it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/83 "2008-07-14T21:23:39Z")
_American Idol_ has to be on the top of this list (among programs running now). One may argue it was fresh (if schlocky and manipulative) in its first season any maybe its second, but after the 100th airing of Simon’s biting criticism, Randy’s “Hey dawg”/“pitchy”, Paula’s drugged-out antics, the usual parade of clueless no-talent auditions, the ambiguous sexuality of Ryan Seacrest, the faux drama of revealing who is in the top X “after the break”… And while the contestants themselves may have been interesting in the first few seasons, later singers quickly adopted whatever stereotypes were acceptable–every season seems to have the sassy girl, the hottie with a so-so voice, the rocker, the crooner, and there is always one singer that everyone agrees should have been voted off weeks ago, but manages to hang around while better singers get dumped. I truly can’t imagine this program surprising anyone anymore–which explains why so many teeneagers watch, because for them these tired cliches are fresh. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/84 "2008-07-14T21:28:15Z")
Another favorite that fell fast and hard, “Designing Women.” The first season is a bit of a dud because the writers hadn’t quite found the balance of sassy and treacly but beginning with season two it was gold. The next-to-last season, when Jean Smart and Delta Burke were switched out for Jan Hooks and Julia Duffy was still for the most part watchable but almost the entire last season was almost completely unwatchable. Which is a damn shame because I like Judith Ivey. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/85 "2008-07-14T21:56:18Z")
[QUOTE=Khadaji] I thought Richie and \*Fonzie \*dated Laverne and Shirley. Fonzie fixed Richie up with Shirley and told him to give the signal when he felt comfortable, Richie says: _OK Fonz_ and Fonzie yells to Laverne: _The kid says OK_ - and they split, leaving Richie and Shirley alone together. Shirley demonstrates how she punched Laverne and accidentally knocks Richie down, beer goes everywhere and just then his folks come home. That is how I remember it anyway. [/QUOTE] Oh, it wouldn’t surprise me if I’m wrong. Fonzie slept with every women in Milwaukee except for Joanie Cunningham and Chaci’s mother. ---
**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/86 "2008-07-14T22:17:23Z")
[QUOTE=Skald the Rhymer] Oh, it wouldn’t surprise me if I’m wrong. Fonzie slept with every women in Milwaukee except for Joanie Cunningham and Chaci’s mother. [/QUOTE] Fonzie slept with Richie’s mother? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/87 "2008-07-14T22:29:56Z")
[QUOTE=Illuminatiprimus] Fonzie slept with Richie’s mother? :eek: [/QUOTE] Who _didn’t_ sleep with Richie’s mother? After seeing her husband in that silly lodge hat, no wonder she “shopped around for a bargain”. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/88 "2008-07-14T22:45:24Z")
[QUOTE=Illuminatiprimus] Fonzie slept with Richie’s mother? :eek: [/QUOTE] You apparently never saw the outtake that showed Marian sneaking down from Fonzi’s apartment while buttoning her blouse. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089/89 "2008-07-15T00:31:22Z")
[QUOTE=Illuminatiprimus] Fonzie slept with Richie’s mother? [/QUOTE] And you thought the C in “Mrs C” stood for…what exactly? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-series-that-have-fallen-the-farthest/456089.md?page=4)