# TV Shows (or other art...music, etc) you are embarrassed that you once liked

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**Created:** [May 2, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446 "2018-05-02T01:39:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/41 "2018-05-02T23:31:44Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I’ve been watching 80’s music videos and OMG they look so ridiculously dated now. Big frizzy mall rat hair, black leather pants and bras, spiked hair, and those idiot dark glasses on everyone, day or night. All trying to look so ‘cool’. What a bunch of douchebags, we thought that was so chic! Smoke machines and canned drumming and cold blue lighting. The music is another topic altogether. Some of this I still like, the videos and the music, but it’s so definitely dated. It WAS 35 years ago, after all.

Lots of things from the past are dated, but they don’t all get the vitriol of the '80s. Yeah, big hair was in back then, so what? Fashions, TV, music, architecture, everything stylistic goes through changes. Men don’t wear jackets and ties to baseball games anymore. Someday, they’ll stop wearing their baseball caps backwards. Full beards seem to be ‘in’ right now, eventually they’ll be ‘out’. I’ve never understood why that seems to surprise so many people. “Look how narrow our ties were back then! What were we thinking?”

> [@terentii](#):
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> I used to love _ **The Beverly Hillbillies** _, but now I find myself cringing at a lot of episodes. The show ran for nine years, and the Clampetts were just as clueless at the end as they were the day they left the Ozarks. That goes beyond culture shock to borderline retardation.

Yeah, and Mr. Drysdale was still a money-grubbing asshole and Miss Hathaway was a stuck-up intellectual snob, so it’s not like the show went out of its way to just insult rural folk.

> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> As a child of the 90s people I know are apparently supposed to be pre-disposed to be embarrassed by what they liked. Everytime a boy band comes on or Spice Girls or something like that everyone’s like “omg I used to love this stuff I’m so embarrassed!!”
> 
> But why?
> 
> It was what was popular at the time, relevant for the time, and you consumed it like everyone else…I don’t understand why you’re embarrassed about it. I used to LOVE Saved by the Bell as a kid, then I watched it again while in college and, holy shit, it was cringeworthy and not funny AT ALL. But it’s not like I’m ashamed I liked it as a kid because it’s a kid’s show. Times change and so do tastes. I doubt the 8 year old me would love Westworld…but here I am.

I’ve heard it claimed, and even more often debunked, that marijuana is evil not on its own, but because it leads people to try harder and harder drugs. I don’t know if I believe in gateway drugs, but I do believe in gateway music. You outgrew the Spice Girls? Congratulations, you were supposed to outgrow the Spice Girls. We need music when we’re young that we can love the first time we hear it, and claim it as our own. Our tastes develop and we move on, to jazz, or classical, or blues, or funk, or whatever, but you owe a debt to the Spice Girls, or Britney, or Justin, or ABBA, for getting us hooked when we were young and impressionable.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/42 "2018-05-02T23:46:50Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Yeah, and Mr. Drysdale was still a money-grubbing asshole and Miss Hathaway was a stuck-up intellectual snob, so it’s not like the show went out of its way to just insult rural folk.

People like Drysdale and Hathaway never change in real life. But you’d think nine years of living in a mansion in Beverly Hills would have some effect on anyone of average intelligence.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/43 "2018-05-02T23:47:56Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Boris Vallejo
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> Foreigner

I don’t think either of those are embarrassing…I used to love looking through Boris Vallejo’s books at the bookstore when I was a kid, though I never bought one and I usually had to hide the contents from the other customers as I perused the sordid illustrations. But they’re fucking badass! He’s an extremely talented painter, there’s no two ways about it.

Foreigner is awesome, they had a number of really good pop-rock songs, I don’t ask much more of a band than that.

> [@Typo Negative](#):
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> Big fan of Prog Rock when I was a teen. Especially YES.
> 
> Watched Yessongs on Prime last night. I can still enjoy some of it…but MAN is it ridiculous.

I think of prog rock as being sort of the British equivalent to American jam band music. There’s extreme musical talent there, but there’s also a lot of noodling. Prog noodling is perhaps less improvisational and more scripted than jam band noodling, but it can get equally tedious when a song takes too long to get from one distinct musical section to another. All of Yes were absolutely killer musicians though, and when they were in the zone, they were _in_ the zone, especially with the Fish (Chris Squire) ripping it up on the Rickenbacker.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/44 "2018-05-02T23:53:49Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> However, there are some things I used to like that make me uncomfortable now because they have outdated portrayals of race, gender, sexuality, etc. The first thing I thought of was [the scene in the movie “All of Me” where Steve Martin is trying to explain to the guru “put Edwina back in the bowl”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNV-WsmwfUA). I thought that was hilarious as a kid, but now it just seems stupid with an insulting quasi-“Indian” accent. I can think of some blaxploitation movies that I used to laugh at (not with) as a young guy, too. And comedies with a flaming homo character? Oy.

I sometimes wonder what things we do now without batting an eye that will come to be seen as morally unacceptable in the future. Could be circuses, rodeos, eating meat, or maybe something that’s barely on our radar now, like overuse of antibiotics or letting medications seep into groundwater.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/45 "2018-05-02T23:57:57Z")

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“Eight Men Out”. I don’t know about embarrassed since it is still a well made film with only minor flaws (players with fingers outside their gloves, Dickie Kerr getting strikeouts for the final outs of his two wins, Joe Jackson shown playing for Hoboken in 1927 when he actually played in Bogota-the producers said they changed that because people would think Bogota, Colombia not Bogota, New Jersey). But I have decided the eight players were crooks, plain and simple. They weren’t as poorly paid as people have made them out to be in recent years.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/46 "2018-05-03T00:40:19Z")

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My first favorite show was the Dukes of Hazzard :smack:  
I would bitch and whine endlessly if we weren’t home by 7 on Friday to watch it. I was far to young to even say I was watching for Daisy. The only thing I can defend it as is that it is the closest thing live-action TV had to a cartoon back then,and it was a transition medium. 🙂

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/47 "2018-05-03T00:50:38Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> _The Moody Blues_ did not deserve to consume my freshman year of high school as much as they did.
> 
> I don’t even have age as an excuse: I was born in 1984. My freshman year was 1998-1999. Better music existed by then.

Despite some rather shallow stuff trending towards schlock (mainly in their reunion years (plus those often cringeworthy and dated drug tunes), their peak years had some pretty good tunes which have stood the test of time (IMHO). I too was into them from c. 11-15 years old, but have recently reconnected with them.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/48 "2018-05-03T00:55:49Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> About WKRP: wasn’t “Andy” with the fancy hair supposed to be the star? I can’t remember anything he ever said or did that was memorable.

He was the straight man with a cast of crazies around him. He did what he was supposed to do. I happen to think the show has aged pretty well.  
I’m not embarrassed that I liked certain shows. I was a kid and didn’t know any better. What embarrasses me is that we only had one tv and my parents had to watch the shows too. Dukes of Hazard, A-Team, Buck Rodgers… all awful shows.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/49 "2018-05-03T01:06:55Z")

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The Cosby Show?

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/50 "2018-05-03T01:13:47Z")

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> [@wolfman](#):
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> My first favorite show was the Dukes of Hazzard :smack:  
> I would bitch and whine endlessly if we weren’t home by 7 on Friday to watch it. I was far to young to even say I was watching for Daisy. The only thing I can defend it as is that it is the closest thing live-action TV had to a cartoon back then,and it was a transition medium. 🙂

Similar thing: when I was 13 I lived with my grandma, and if we weren’t back to her house by 3 p.m. when ‘Where The Action Is’ (a music show with Freddie ‘Boom boom Canyon’ and Paul Revere and the Raiders) was on, my day was ruint. That was the closest to music videos we ever got. I’m not embarrassed, music was a lifeline for a lot of us. Something bigger, better, more interesting out there.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/51 "2018-05-03T01:18:52Z")

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Why would anyone be embarrassed about liking the Dukes?

Or the Moodies, for that matter?

(Two huge things from my childhood and I’m still a fan!)

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/52 "2018-05-03T01:27:51Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Dude, have you _listened_ to Ted Nugent? Wang Dang Sweet Poontang is his magnum opus.

Nah. That would be _Stranglehold_. Sorry, but it still fucking rocks. 😛

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/53 "2018-05-03T01:30:44Z")

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I’m chagrined to say Ted Nugent was my first rock concert. In my defense, the plan was to see Alice Cooper, but my friend’s mom made an executive decision at the ticket outlet.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/54 "2018-05-03T10:13:03Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Nah. That would be _Stranglehold_. Sorry, but it still fucking rocks. 😛

Can’t argue the point, but the lyrics are so stoopid that I can listen and embrace the Nuge Stupidity.

> [@the Motor City Idiot](#):
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> The road I cruise is a bitch now baby  
> You know you can’t turn me 'round  
> And if a house gets in my way baby  
> You know I’ll burn it down
> 
> You remember the night that you left me  
> You put me in my place  
> Got you in a stranglehold baby  
> You’re gone, I crushed your face

I actually love the songs Hey Baby, and also Free for All. Man, Free for All has a kinda variant-Bo Diddley groove that just rocks. But he’s still an idiot and I knew it back then.

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Do the MeTV episodes use the original music, or the “replacement” music that’s on the DVDs? That could have something to do with it.
> 
> Here’s a theory; when you were younger, you tended to watch, or at least remember, just the “good” episodes of shows. For example, a lot of stations would air just the “Barney” episodes of The Andy Griffith Show, but now, you get the entire series, including the “Warren” ones.
> 
> Strangely enough, I remember what it was pretty much the other way around; I watched _Gomer Pyle, USMC_ in syndication for years without ever knowing that the black and white episodes even existed.

Good question, and I don’t know. The music isn’t the issue for me. I just rolled my eyes through the two episodes I revisited.

However, I must stick of for the Beverly Hillbillies, which I enjoy to this day. I think it is criminally underrated, the writing is much more complex than it appears on the surface, and I’d be thrilled to be one of Elly May’s critters any day of the week.

Woo-doggies.  
mmm

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/56 "2018-05-03T12:37:28Z")

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I’ve been seeing reruns of The Lone Ranger lately. I’m struck by how very little effort the guest stars on most episodes put into actually _emoting_. They just say their lines like they are reading the instructions on a package. “You didn’t have to kill him” is said with as much emphasis and feeling as “close cover before striking.” (The same goes for Tonto, but the poor guy wasn’t given much to work with in the first place.)

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> _The Moody Blues_ did not deserve to consume my freshman year of high school as much as they did.
> 
> I don’t even have age as an excuse: I was born in 1984. My freshman year was 1998-1999. Better music existed by then.

I can think of no other band that SHOULD consume a young person’s formative years than 1967-72 Moody Blues. Not a lot of ‘singles’ in there, no, but each album is itself a transformative experience with just a beanbag chair and some dim lights (drugs optional–I’ve never listened to them on drugs, maybe I should). I’ve got about 15 years on you, trust me, you want to keep this band in mind when 40 starts getting small in your rearview mirror.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/58 "2018-05-03T13:18:35Z")

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Now that I know a little about Scott Adams’ political leanings, I’m ashamed to have been a Dilbert fan.

When I was REAL young, I thought Video Village was a cool game show with an awesome set. Watching it on YouTube, I’m baffled why it didn’t ruin Monty Hall’s career.

Another for the real young time- I used to think the Nancy comic was funny.

For a very brief time, I liked Chicago’s music. What a fool I was.

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**Bewitched**. Darren was such a sexist douchbag, and Endora was quite right to hold him in scorn.

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**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-or-other-art-music-etc-you-are-embarrassed-that-you-once-liked/813446/60 "2018-05-03T13:23:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> For a very brief time, I liked Chicago’s music. What a fool I was.

Pardon? The stuff with Terry Kath is wonderful. When Pete Cetera got too cheesy-pop frontman, they went downhill.

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