# TV shows that changed the most between their first & last episodes **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004 "2009-09-21T21:53:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/1 "2009-09-21T21:53:21Z")
This morning I chanced to see a little bit of Angel on TNT. I didn’t watch much of it–partly because the treadmill was calling, but mostly because I didn’t really care for the first half of the first season of the show. But the little bit I saw made me remember how big a difference there was between the first and last episodes of the series. I don’t just mean that the characters were different; though the only consistent cast member throughout the series is David Boreanez, that’s nothing compared to shows like ER & Law & Order, which have entirely changed their ensembles more than once. In Angel, EVERYTHING changes over the course of the show. The show began with mostly self-contained episodes but changed to serialized arcs; the special effects grew much flashier over time; even the lighting and background music changed. In short, Season 5 Angel is hardly the same show as Season 1. What other series is this true of? Contrariwise, what long-running series changed the LEAST over time? (For purposes of this discussion, consider “long-running” to equal “four years or more.”) Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/2 "2009-09-21T21:57:58Z")
_M_A_S_H\* started as a superb ensemble wartime (relatively) dark comedy. It ended as _The Alan Alda Soapbox Show_. Granted, _The Alan Alda Soapbox Show_ was better than 80% of what was on TV at the time, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/3 "2009-09-21T22:05:01Z")
_Ellen_ changed a lot from the original “_These Friends Of Mine_.” ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/4 "2009-09-21T22:21:20Z")
Star Trek: TNG, DS9, and Ent changed during their runs. DS9 and Ent added in story arcs, TNG and DS9 changed how the main characters interacted with each other, Ent went from almost pure dreck to a fairly watchable series … I guess I should add in VOY also. It went from the Janeway as Picard Show to the Freakin’ All Borg Show. ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/5 "2009-09-21T23:05:59Z")
Seinfeld went from being everyday people musing about the impoderables of life to a group of self-absorbed phrase-makers getting into high-concept situations. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/6 "2009-09-21T23:56:17Z")
I always thought that it would be great for a network (Nick at Night) to play a series pilot and or first show followed by the series finale. ---
**Author:** ![C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C.Montgomery_Burns)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/7 "2009-09-22T00:15:25Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > I always thought that it would be great for a network (Nick at Night) to play a series pilot and or first show followed by the series finale. They do that (or used to do it) on TV Land. On New Years Eve they would show the last episode, and and on New Year’s Day they show the first episode. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/8 "2009-09-22T00:18:11Z")
> [@Markxxx](#): > > _Ellen_ changed a lot from the original “_These Friends Of Mine_.” I loved ‘TFoM’. I liked ‘Ellen’. I grew quickly tired of ‘Look at Me, I’m Out of the Closet!’ I didn’t watch one ep of her comeback sitcom, but she has me back with her talk show. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/9 "2009-09-22T00:31:20Z")
**KTK** took my answer. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/10 "2009-09-22T00:59:39Z")
> [@Markxxx](#): > > _Ellen_ changed a lot from the original “_These Friends Of Mine_.” Glad to see I’m not the only person that remembers the first season. I liked it better. Wasn’t Jeremy Piven in it the first version? ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/11 "2009-09-22T01:06:56Z")
Other way around. Piven joined in the second season. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/12 "2009-09-22T01:29:28Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > Other way around. Piven joined in the second season. Yeah, [Ayre Gross](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0343325/) was the guy in the first seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/13 "2009-09-22T01:33:16Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > What other series is this true of? A few examples leap to mind Dark Shadows, which started out as a soap opera featuring a spooky mansion but no supernatural elements, became a story almost entirely about a vampire (Barnabas) [Dark Shadows - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Shadows) Family Ties originally focused on the parents, not on Alex. The Facts of Life started out with Mrs. Garrett and a male headmaster dealing with the problems of about 10 girls (including Molly Ringwald) - after the first season, most of the kids left (and so did the headmaster). A new kid (Jo) arrived, and the stories thereafter were about the four kids and their interactions with Mrs. Garrett. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/14 "2009-09-22T01:49:46Z")
I’d argue that the recent Battlestar Galactica could belong on this list. It started as a largely episodic action-heavy series about people surviving a war in space (and glowing sex!), and ended as a show about conflict politics, faith, redemption, and fatalism. There was a significant shift in aesthetics, too, as the show moved from gritty and loose production to shiny and tight. Color palettes, camerawork, and the very pace of the scripts shifted dramatically. Then again, this was all done very intentionally and the transition was smooth and followed the shifting narrative. Nevertheless, I’d argue that the final episodes were a pretty far departure from the first. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/15 "2009-09-22T02:18:32Z")
Most shows do undergo transitions over a long run. But I’d say the champs in this were those that evolved, not only into a different concept, but also a different name. The best example of this was **Duet**. The show (one of the original Fox series) was originally a romantic comedy about Ben Coleman and Laura Kelly. At the end of the second season, Ben and Laura were married and gave birth to a daughter. The first episode of the third season was set three years later. It didn’t do too well, so Laura divorced Ben and joined up with her ex’s best friend’s wife (Alison La Placa) to be part of a real estate agency. The show was renamed **Open House** and was changed to feature La Placa.\* Going back, **The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp** actually did follow (roughly) Earp’s life as it changed. \*Always a mistake, since series starring La Placa had a terrible track record. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/16 "2009-09-22T02:19:30Z")
\*Buffy the Vampire Slayer \*started out as a one-note teen comedy. It ended as the greatest television series in American Television History. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/17 "2009-09-22T02:44:28Z")
I think a good number of these likely owe to the “discovery” of a breakout character, like the above-mentioned Alex P. Keaton in Family Ties. > [@](#): > > # Arthur “The Fonz” Fonzarelli (Henry Winkler) in the American sitcom Happy Days.[2][4] The character of Fonzie started out as a fringe character but quickly evolved into the focal point of the series. His character became best friend to the main character, Richie Cunningham, displacing Potsie Webber - the character originally intended for that relationship. Winkler’s billing in the credits rose all the way to second (he refused to go before Ron Howard, the star) and then first after Howard left the show to pursue directing. At one point, network executives even hoped to call the show Fonzie’s Happy Days.[5] More: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_breakout\_characters#Television](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_breakout_characters#Television) ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/18 "2009-09-22T02:49:47Z")
The original “Doctor Who” changes radically from beginning to end, and not merely the actor in the title role. In the first year or so, the Doctor’s background was completely unexplained (apart from the fact that ‘his people’ were obviously more scientifically advanced than Earth people of 1963). The Doctor is actually a selfish, meddling character who causes as more problems than he solves. In the first serial, he actually has to be stopped from killing someone (because the man is wounded and slowing them down from escaping their pursuers!) He has a grand-daughter (implying having a family, which was never mentioned again), and despite being the title character, he is NOT the primary hero of the series. The two main heroes are Ian & Barbara, two school-teachers who are considerably older and less sexy than the Doctors’ usual traveling companions. The series was actually intended to be an educational show for young kids. The serials alternated between science-fiction scenarios that demonstrated science & physics principles (allowing schoolteacher Ian, a science teacher, to point out interesting science facts to Susan, the teen-aged character, and by proxy the young audience) and historical settings (in which Barbara, a history teacher, could lecture about different historical events.) In fact, originally, the series was **only** supposed to depict historical stories. In the original Dalek story (the first science fiction story), the travelers are stuck on the planet Skaro and need to stage a raid on the Dalek city in order to escape. Unfortunately for them, the Thals (the humanoid race living on Skaro) are complete pacifists and won’t help them. Ian gives a long, impassioned speech about the _need to fight for what you want_, which is a far cry from the Doctor’s later incarnations who express their disdain for combat in any form. At the end of that series of episodes (serials typically ran for six or seven weeks) the Daleks were utterly destroyed. There was never any mention of them being an intergalactic menace capable of nearly destroying the universe - in fact, they never left their citadel on their home planet. The TARDIS is also a malfunctioning time machine which the Doctor cannot control. There was no way for him to predict where he would be going. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/19 "2009-09-22T03:05:55Z")
“Family Matters” change dramaticly after Urkel. ---
**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004/20 "2009-09-22T03:10:33Z")
I’ve thought there was a world of difference between the first season of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW and the last, (not even counting MAYBERRY RFD). Early Andy the emphasis was on comedy, and funny situations, later Andy was more character driven and less going for funny. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-changed-the-most-between-their-first-last-episodes/511004.md?page=2)