# TV shows that went through major change and remained good? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 27, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723 "2005-05-27T04:43:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/41 "2005-05-30T14:23:50Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > It’s hardly a surprise that the most unpopular **Transformers** cartoons tend to be from the third season, especially “Five Faces of Darkness,” the five-part season opener. Actually, I haven’t seen “Five Faces of Darkness” since it came out, but I’d love to see it again. I have pretty fond memories of it being all dark and mature, and I wonder if I would still enjoy it now. To this day, I still love the movie, although I was let down when I saw “Return of Optimus Prime” and “Rebirth” back when I was in college. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/42 "2005-05-30T19:10:25Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Talk Soup is more in line with most of the shows in this thread – it survived the loss of Greg Kinnear, then the loss of Rat Boy, etc. I’m not even sure who’s doing it now, but he’s about as funny as the rest of them. It’s still on? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2005, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/43 "2005-05-30T19:13:09Z")
> [@Snooooopy](#): > > It’s still on? Yes, indeedy. Consult your local listings, as they say. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/44 "2005-05-31T06:18:47Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Talk Soup is more in line with most of the shows in this thread – it survived the loss of Greg Kinnear, then the loss of **Rat Boy** , etc. I’m not even sure who’s doing it now, but he’s about as funny as the rest of them. (Bolding mine) If you’re talking about John Henson then it’s “Skunk Boy” not “Rat Boy”, he was by far my favorite! He’s the host who got me to start watching that show, he was hilarious! I wish I had a copy of each show he did during the week of his hunger strike to get Dustin Hoffman to guest. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/45 "2005-05-31T06:20:18Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Yes, indeedy. Consult your local listings, as they say. Sadly, owing to my lack of cable TV, consulting my local listings would be a pointless exercise. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/46 "2005-05-31T11:07:39Z")
Actually, it’s now called The Soup, and has expanded from just clips from reality and talk shows to pop culture and current events. The latest host is Joel McHale, who played Hutch, “The Asshole”, in the first season of Joe Schmoe. It’s a much better version of Best Week Ever. ---
**Author:** ![Carm6773](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2bfe46/32.png) [@Carm6773](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carm6773)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/47 "2005-05-31T13:43:26Z")
How about **ER**? Like **Law & Order** , they have been through many cast changes, but it’s still good. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/48 "2005-05-31T13:46:07Z")
> [@Ross](#): > > I have no idea what I’m talking about, by the way, and have pieced this together from memories which are less than reliable. Miranda Richardson as Queen Elizabeth gives me memory problems too. Such bad luck! -Joe, hey that sounds just like F- ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/49 "2005-05-31T18:00:40Z")
Though it’s venue and story lines remained fairly constant, I thought the final 2 years of Hill St Blues were superior to the 1st 2 years - Due mainly to the introduction of the Norman Buntz character played by Dennis Franz. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2005, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723/50 "2005-05-31T18:24:51Z")
> [@Carm6773](#): > > How about **ER**? Like **Law & Order** , they have been through many cast changes, but it’s still good. Yuck. I gave up on it two seasons ago. Three? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-that-went-through-major-change-and-remained-good/305723.md?page=2)