# TV Shows with a strong "regional" sense

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> [@postcards](#):
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> > [@Zeldar](#):
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> > Rescue Me – Boston?
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> NYC.

Much obliged.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-with-a-strong-regional-sense/612428/82 "2012-02-12T16:26:23Z")

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Here’s a sorted lost of the shows named through Post #81 Today, 09:22 AM

The dupes (as best I could do) have been removed except for the shows where I don’t know enough to select the right “location.”

I would appreciate any help in putting the 80+ shows in some categories to make polling easier or more logical.

Until there’s a way to cope with the number in more meaningful bites, I’m waiting for help.

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All in the Family – Astoria (NYC?)  
Always Sunny in Philadelphia – “Philly”  
The Andy Griffith Show – North Carolina, specifically, Mount Airy, NC  
Blue Bloods – NYC  
The Bob Newhart Show – Chicago

Bones – Washington, DC  
Breaking Bad – Desert Southwest (Albuquerque, New Mexico)  
Burn Notice – Miami  
Cheers – Boston  
Chicago Code – Chicago

Chicago Hope – Chicago  
Corner Gas – Saskatchewan  
Coronation Street – Manchester  
CSI – Las Vegas  
Dallas – Dallas

Detroit 1-8-7 – Detroit  
Dexter – Miami  
Dragnet (the 50s and 60s versions) – Los Angeles  
The Drew Carey Show – Cleveland  
ER – Chicago

Family Ties – Ohio, with references to both Cincinnati and Cleveland  
Frasier – Seattle  
Friday Night Lights – West Texas  
Friday Night Lights – Midland/Odessa Texas  
Friends – NYC  
Green Acres – Hooterville

Gunsmoke – western  
Happy Days – Milwaukee  
Happy Endings – Chicago  
Hawaii 5-0 – Hawaii  
Home Improvement – metro Detroit

Homicide: Life on the Streets – Baltimore  
The Honeymooners – Bensonhurt, Brooklyn, in the Fifties  
Hot in Cleveland – Cleveland  
How I met Your Mother – NYC  
How I Met Your Mother – could have been any big city  
In Plain Sight – Albuquerque

Justified – Kentucky  
The Killing – Seattle  
King of the Hill – North Texas/Houston/Austin/general Texas  
King of the Hill – Central Texas (within an hour of Austin – somewhere just north of it)  
King Of The Hill – Houston Suburbs – Richardson, TX, a suburb of Dallas  
Laverne & Shirley – Milwaukee  
Law & Order (the original) – NYC

Life on Mars – Manchester (England)  
Little House on the Prairie – western  
Louie - New York  
Mad Men – NYC  
Magnum, P.I. – Hawaii

M_A_S\*H – the mountains around southern California  
The Mentalist – different locations over a large area of California  
Miami Vice – Miami  
The Middle – Indiana  
Mike & Molly – Chicago

Mork & Mindy – Denver  
Mork and Mindy – Boulder  
My Name is Earl – Camden County (unincorporated area or something)(loosely based on Waldorf, Maryland)  
Mystery Science Theater 3000 – Twin Cities (Minnesota?)  
Nash Bridges – San Francisco  
Northern Exposure – Alaska

NYPD Blue – NYC  
The Office – Scranton, Pa.  
parks and rec – pawnee  
Petticoat Junction – Hooterville  
Portlandia – Oregon

Rawhide – western  
The Red Riding trilogy - Leeds, West Yorkshire  
Rescue Me – NYC  
Rhoda – NYC  
Roseanne – Michigan  
Roseanne – in the rust belt somewhere  
Roseanne – Lanford, IL – generic Midwest  
Roseanne – Illinois, not Michigan

Royal Pains – the Hamptons  
Saturday Night Live – NYC  
Seinfeld – NYC  
The Simpsons – the State that Springfield is in  
Six Feet Under – LA

The Sopranos – New Jersey  
Southland – LA  
Spin City – NYC  
Streets of San Francisco – SF  
That 70s Show – Small Town, USA – Point Place, WI, was in fact inspired by Dunkirk, NY

30Rock – NYC  
Twin Peaks – Pacific Northwest  
Wagon Train – western  
The Waltons – Appalachian mountains of Virginia  
Whitney – chicago

Will and Grace – NYC  
Wings – Nantucket (The island and, to a lesser extent, coastal Massachusetts)  
The Wire – Baltimore  
WKRP – some level of Cincinnati/Ohio references

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Trailer Park Boys – the Maritimes

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I thought _ **The Rockford Files** _ definitely captured part of what defined Southern California in the Seventies.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-with-a-strong-regional-sense/612428/85 "2012-02-13T14:52:14Z")

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"Law and Order was not only set in NYC, it was pretty much filmed on location there.

On the other hand, “Designing Women” was set in Atlanta, and I never got any sense of Atlanta from that show.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-with-a-strong-regional-sense/612428/86 "2012-02-13T15:30:32Z")

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The Beverly Hillbillies 😃

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-with-a-strong-regional-sense/612428/87 "2012-02-13T15:34:04Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> It may just be a bit of jadedness on my part, but I tend to dismiss the NYC and LA “regionalism” component, unless it’s stressed as a main feature of the show. One exception I can think of is the excellent _Southland_ where LA is essential to how the show comes across. I’m not arguing with your list, and would certainly include them in the poll, but I see them as not all that strongly tied to _place_ as other shows. Thanks for the response.

I agree. New York and LA are usually just used to add plausibility and “realness” to a show - and LA is a distant second, mostly in shows where showbiz is looking at itself.

It’s all probably intended to go down easy with media industry people. For many, NY/LA simply _is_ the real world, with NY realest of all.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-with-a-strong-regional-sense/612428/88 "2012-02-13T16:07:53Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Seinfeld sucks as a NYC show.
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> Some of the exteriors, like Jerry’s apartment, were shot in LA and look it.
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> The street sets look nothing like Manhattan–they look like sets. The parking space where George and Mike what’s his name are competing, for example, for looks nothing like a Manhattan street.
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> And don’t get me started on the interiors. Jerry’s apartment is far too spacious for a struggling comedian. He’d need three roommates for a place that big. (Unless he’s a multimillionaire comic like Seinfeld, which Seinfeld isn’t).

There’s a lot of truth to his but for me, the characters scream New York which over shadows everything else.

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I thought **The West Wing** nailed DC in a way that **227** and **The District** didn’t. There have been some other DC-set shows that really dropped the ball, the most notorious being **Wonder Woman** (No palm trees line Massachusetts Avenue). **NCIS** occasionally surprises me with convincing settings in the Virginia suburbs. **The X-Files** rarely did; I couldn’t think of a single building in Takoma Park that could house the Lone Gunmen’s HQ. **Murphy Brown** got DC pretty well. **That’s My Bush** did not.

I enjoyed **Newhart** a lot, but wonder if any Vermonters recognized themselves among those odd characters. I did like the witches’ coven his wife accidentally joined that one time (“If you wanna be a witch, ya gotta marry the devil!”).

Seattle had a wonderful sketch comedy show 20-odd years ago called **Almost Live** which not only caught the vibe of the city, but skewered specific neighborhoods and suburbs pretty deftly. It was kind of the **Portlandia** of its day. The show was briefly repackaged for Comedy Central, but all the regionalisms were bleached out of it and a lot of viewers had to wonder what the big deal was. At least **Bill Nye, Science Guy** spun off of it.

SCTV sure had a regional sense, though I guess it’s a little patronizing to call Canada a “region.”

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-with-a-strong-regional-sense/612428/90 "2012-02-13T18:28:52Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I grew up in a speciic neighborhood in New York City, but rarely felt as if most TV shows set in New York really captured my neighborhood or accurately portrayed the kind of people I gew up around.
> 
> _ **The Honeymooners** _ certainly captured Bensonhurt, Brooklyn, in the Fifties.
> 
> _ **All in the Family** _ OCCASIONALLY rang true… I definitely knew a lot of real people in Astoria who talked like Archie. But there was way too much the show DIDN’T get right about Astoria (Archie never seemed to run into any GREEKS, for one thing!).

Also: What was Archie’s ethnicity? You might say Irish because of O’Connor. And the character’s accent and xenophobia ring true with the workingclass Irish stereotype. But he bitched about the Micks and Catlickers right along with everybody else he bitched about.

Another show set in New York, but not admitting it, was _Laverne and Shirley_, which took place in either the Milwaukee section of Brooklyn or the Brooklyn section of Milwaukee.

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> [@Krokodil](#):
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> **Murphy Brown** got DC pretty well.

It think it could easily have been set in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, or Minneapolis. The exterior establishment shot of the network building was definitely not in Washington, D.C.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-with-a-strong-regional-sense/612428/92 "2012-02-13T19:18:54Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Another show set in New York, but not admitting it, was _Laverne and Shirley_, which took place in either the Milwaukee section of Brooklyn or the Brooklyn section of Milwaukee.

Well, the show was created by Garry Marshall, an Italian-American from Chicago… but Garry cut his teeth in show biz writing jokes for Jewish Borscht Belt comics like Phil Foster (he repaid Foster years later by giving him the role of Laverne’s Dad). Hence, even when Marshall’s shows are set in the Midwest, they ofen have an unmistakeably New York Jewish feel.

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Also: What was Archie’s ethnicity? You might say Irish because of O’Connor. And the character’s accent and xenophobia ring true with the workingclass Irish stereotype. But he bitched about the Micks and Catlickers right along with everybody else he bitched about.

That’s a very fair point. The anti-Catholic jokes MAY have been a carryover from the old British series\*\*\* Til Death Do Us Part.\*\*\* They certainly don’t make much sense in a blue-collar New Yorker.

After all ,Archie was supposed to have grown up in New York City in the 1920s and 1930s. By then, New York was ALREADY heavily Irish and Italian.

In the British series, Alf Garnett was a working class Protestant to whom Catholics were some kind of exotic invaders who threatened to change the makeup of his neighborhood. But Catholics certainly weren’t exotic outsiders in New York during the time of Archie Bunker’s childhood.

I was born in 1961- so, when I was a kid, Astoria was largely Irish and ITalian, with a large number of elderly German Lutherans still hanging on. By the time I was in high school, the Irish were mostly gone, and the neighborhood was overwhelmingly Greek and Italian.

As I said, I grew up among a lot of people who talked like Archie Bunker! THAT part rang true. But the show NEVER gave any kind of feel for the ethnic makeup of the neighborhood. All those years in Astoria, and Archie never made a single crack about those greasy Greek neighbors and their smelly souvlaki stands???

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**PSYCH** is set in, and appears to be filmed in, Santa Barbara.

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I suspect that Curb Your Enthusiasm gives you a pretty solid feel of life with the rich Hollywood side of Los Angeles culture – the places they go, the things they do. So I’d say it’s strongly regional, although the behavior displayed therein is farcical.

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A few Canadian shows are unabashedly regional:

Older shows:  
\*\*The Beachcombers \*\*- Coastal British Columbia  
\*\*King of Kensington \*\*- Toronto - Kensington to be precise  
\*\*Da Vinci’s Inquest \*\*- Vancouver

Current ones:  
\*\*Being Erica \*\*- Toronto, show website even has a map pinpointing where in various plot events occur  
\*\*Republic of Doyle \*\*- St. John’s Newfoundland  
\*\*Little Mosque on the Prairie \*\*- Saskatchewan

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> [@astorian](#):
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> That’s a very fair point. The anti-Catholic jokes MAY have been a carryover from the old British series\*\*\* Til Death Do Us Part.\*\*\* They certainly don’t make much sense in a blue-collar New Yorker.
> 
> After all ,Archie was supposed to have grown up in New York City in the 1920s and 1930s. By then, New York was ALREADY heavily Irish and Italian.
> 
> In the British series, Alf Garnett was a working class Protestant to whom Catholics were some kind of exotic invaders who threatened to change the makeup of his neighborhood. But Catholics certainly weren’t exotic outsiders in New York during the time of Archie Bunker’s childhood.
> 
> I was born in 1961- so, when I was a kid, Astoria was largely Irish and ITalian, with a large number of elderly German Lutherans still hanging on. By the time I was in high school, the Irish were mostly gone, and the neighborhood was overwhelmingly Greek and Italian.
> 
> As I said, I grew up among a lot of people who talked like Archie Bunker! THAT part rang true. But the show NEVER gave any kind of feel for the ethnic makeup of the neighborhood. All those years in Astoria, and Archie never made a single crack about those greasy Greek neighbors and their smelly souvlaki stands???

Anti-Irish jokes might have been a carry-over, but I don’t really remember any from TDUP and they wouldn’t have been about them being Catholic. Catholics also weren’t exotic outsiders in London even 90 years ago.

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I’m surprised that no one mentioned Taxi yet, for NYC.

Also:

I Dream Of Jeannie—Coco Beach  
Northern Exposure—small Alaskan town  
Superman—NYC  
Batman—Gotham City 😉

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> Anti-Irish jokes might have been a carry-over, but I don’t really remember any from TDUP and they wouldn’t have been about them being Catholic. Catholics also weren’t exotic outsiders in London even 90 years ago.

Not being English, I couldn’t say.

I only know that, while

1. There are places in the Southern U.S. where fundamentalist Protestants still view Catholics with suspicion (even viewing them as “not really Christian”), and

2. In the Eighteenth century, there were many American Protestants who demonized Catholics as foreign troublemakers (the phrase “Rum, Romanism and Rebellion” comes to mind)…  
Such anti-Catholicism was long dead and gone in the Northern states by the time Archie Bunker was supposed to be born. His anti-Catholicism never made much sense.

I thought MAYBE it might have made more sense in the character of Alf Garnett… but maybe not.

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Not being English, I couldn’t say.
> 
> I only know that, while
> 
> 1. There are places in the Southern U.S. where fundamentalist Protestants still view Catholics with suspicion (even viewing them as “not really Christian”), and
> 
> 2. In the Eighteenth century, there were many American Protestants who demonized Catholics as foreign troublemakers (the phrase “Rum, Romanism and Rebellion” comes to mind)…  
> Such anti-Catholicism was long dead and gone in the Northern states by the time Archie Bunker was supposed to be born. His anti-Catholicism never made much sense.
> 
> I thought MAYBE it might have made more sense in the character of Alf Garnett… but maybe not.

Not really. On the mainland, Catholic vs. Protestant hasn’t been an issue for a few hundred years. Anti-Irish certainly, especially in Alf Garnett’s time, with the IRA and all, but it’s not a religious thing - at least, not in anti-Irish jokes. Anti-Catholicism is not one of the -isms you’d expect a bigot to adhere to.

Actually, technically the PM can’t be Catholic, and the monarch can’t be one or marry one. The latter makes some sense, since the monarch is the head of the Church of England, but the former is an anachronism that doesn’t really carry over into everyday life and I bet it’ll be fixed soon enough.

The one Alf Garnett scene I remember in a church is when he was asking the vicar, tentatively, whether in the afterlife he’d be reunited with his second wife or his first and was really worried about it; it was quite touching.

I just looked up a couple of Alf Garnett clips and it was like Daily Mail commentators come to life. 😃

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