# TV shows you think would have benefitted from nudity/violence/profanity **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 5, 2008, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229 "2008-11-05T06:32:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/61 "2008-11-07T03:33:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Almost all of them, quite frankly. Great minds think alike. I had had the same thought. Like, almost every cop show has scenes where the cops are in strip clubs, but the strippers are all fully clothed. Simply having the strippers be naked would add a great deal to the scene’s credibility. Plus, naked women dancing. But it wouldn’t improve the show greatly: Law and Order would still be Law and Order and CSI would still be CSI and the same would apply to all their clones and imitators. So I confined my thoughts to shows that would be GREATLY improved with violence, nudity and/or sex. (And BTW, I didn’t explain “Charlie’s Angels” – it just seemed that a show that depends so heavily on T&A tease might be more interesting if it occasionally delivered. There’s a reason the slots in Vegas occasionally pay off.) ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/62 "2008-11-07T04:10:30Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > **WKRP in Cincinatti** Bailey, definitely. Jennifer, probaably. Johnny, Herb, Les and the Big Guy I can do without. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/63 "2008-11-07T05:08:25Z")
> [@Charger](#): > > **The Smurfs** would have been _hilarious_ if they had said _real_ swears instead of masking it by saying “smurf” all the time. Smurf that, ya smurfing smurfburger! I’ll second the earlier mention of **The A-Team**. They became a comic parody of themselves, having a dozen guys standing behind barrels and cardboard boxes, wildly spraying machine guns like they were painting the room, and no one ever got hit. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/64 "2008-11-07T05:33:21Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Supernatural: More violence! The creatures of the night should be bloodthirsty. And nudity for all! And Dean really should swear more. _More_ violence? I’m pretty sure this is already one of the most violent shows on a primetime basic channel. I’m not sure how much more gore I can take, frankly. Sam losing a fingernail and the guy coughing up razor blades was kinda my limit. I agree with you on the nudity thing, though. Jared and Jensen should be naked, and often. Prefereably with each other. While hugging. One of the few shows where a character’s inability to swear really bothered me was Buffy. Because of Faith. IRL, every other word out of Faith’s mouth would have been “fuck”. I’d like for Dean to get the occational “fuck” and “shit” as well, but I wouldn’t like him as much if he cussed all the time. ---
**Author:** ![I\_m\_Bill\_McNeal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c2a13f/32.png) [@I\_m\_Bill\_McNeal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_m_Bill_McNeal)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/65 "2008-11-07T05:38:05Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > TAXI- no desire to see Judd Hirsch naked, but I think profanity would have helped it, especially Louis. Most high school shows also (though I can’t think of any off hand)- nobody swears as much as teenaged boys. Taxi was planned to go to HBO in its fifth season. Apparently, the first episode was going to drive home the point of what a move to premium cable meant. It was supposed to just open with a shot of Marilu Henner’s tits. I can’t find the cite for the quote (damn you to hell, Google) but I know I’m not just making that up. I want to say it might have been mentioned in passing around the time Man on the Moon came out. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/66 "2008-11-07T06:26:51Z")
I think Hill Street Blues could have benefitted from more violence, swearing, and nudity. That show was pretty ground-breaking for its time for realism, but I think more would have done nothing but improve it. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/67 "2008-11-07T16:55:59Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Here’s my fantasy NC-17 version of I Dream of Jeannie: When Cpt. Nelson first finds Jeannie, she deliberately chooses the form that corresponds to his subconcious ideal woman (which we see full frontal). Jeannie isn’t exactly evil but she’s very willful and hates being enslaved to the holder of her bottle. So she tries to take advantage of an escape clause: if she can seduce her master, she’ll no longer be bound. So the whole series has as it’s running gag that Jeannie is **fervently** trying to seduce Nelson; and fearing the possible consequences of setting a djinn loose in the world, Nelson resists, not without a lot of frustration. It would explain why he never took advantage of Jeannie, other than having him be gay. As of this moment, you are officially the fourth-greatest Doper of us all. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/68 "2008-11-07T18:02:57Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > High praise; thank you! :)Hmm, intriguing. Ok, how’s this: > > Unknown millenia ago, some people stumbled into a vast source of occult power. That’s so cool. Um. Let’s see you remake “Three’s company”. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/69 "2008-11-07T18:28:19Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Unknown millenia ago, some people stumbled into a vast source of occult power… That seems to be a pretty good description of the Bewitched universe as it was. Where are the naked women, or men, in the case of Darren #2? ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/70 "2008-11-07T18:34:36Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > That’s so cool. Um. Let’s see you remake “Three’s company”. Damn! 1 post too late! Well, at the very least it wuld have been a lot har…more difficult to convince the landlords that Jack was gay if he was constantly fucking janet and Chrissy. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/71 "2008-11-07T18:52:24Z")
> [@Charger](#): > > **The Smurfs** would have been _hilarious_ if they had said _real_ swears instead of masking it by saying “smurf” all the time. Or you could keep the conceit and just change their name. I’m trying to think which word would work best. They’d be a bunch of little blue \_\_\_\_\_\_s. “Hi, I’m Papa \_\_\_\_\_.” ---
**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/72 "2008-11-07T18:57:39Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > That’s so cool. Um. Let’s see you remake “Three’s company”. I picture every episode as Jack having a wild threeway with Chrissy and Janet, complete with moaning and porn-style dialogue. Meanwhile, Mr. Roper eavesdrops through the wall, shaking his head. “They’ll never be able to fix that leaky pipe themselves. Why don’t they just call a plumber?” ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/73 "2008-11-07T19:44:23Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > That’s so cool. Um. Let’s see you remake “Three’s company”. The premise of the original show was basically about not having sex: Jack had to hide that he’s heterosexual or Mr. Roper will evict him. So the first move is to kill Mr. Roper- let’s say in the pilot episode that Helen Roper is newly widowed. So the hook of the new version is that Jack is three-timing the women in the series: he’s paying the rent in bed with Helen, who’ll get jealous and kick him out if she finds out he’s doing his roommates. Chrissy is a spacey New-Age sex priestess who engages in Tantric sex with Jack once a week, rationalizing it as strictly for his Yang essence, while trying to entice Janet and Helen into joining her sex coven. And Janet is a conflicted bisexual unable to acknowledge her growing attraction to Chrissy and Helen, and who compulsively boffs Jack to reassure herself of her heterosexuality. ---
**Author:** ![Jake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/74 "2008-11-07T20:02:33Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > The Brady Bunch! > > Gee Jan, you’re not really my sister. HEY! That’s MY fantasy! You can have Carol… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/75 "2008-11-07T20:37:40Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > The premise of the original show was basically about not having sex: Jack had to hide that he’s heterosexual or Mr. Roper will evict him. So the first move is to kill Mr. Roper- let’s say in the pilot episode that Helen Roper is newly widowed. > > So the hook of the new version is that Jack is three-timing the women in the series: he’s paying the rent in bed with Helen, who’ll get jealous and kick him out if she finds out he’s doing his roommates. Chrissy is a spacey New-Age sex priestess who engages in Tantric sex with Jack once a week, rationalizing it as strictly for his Yang essence, while trying to entice Janet and Helen into joining her sex coven. And Janet is a conflicted bisexual unable to acknowledge her growing attraction to Chrissy and Helen, and who compulsively boffs Jack to reassure herself of her heterosexuality. And another god walks among us. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/76 "2008-11-07T21:45:27Z")
How does Larry fit in to all of that? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/77 "2008-11-07T22:10:33Z")
> [@Charger](#): > > **The Smurfs** would have been _hilarious_ if they had said _real_ swears instead of masking it by saying “smurf” all the time. Check out this [video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRPCGCz2MaY). ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/78 "2008-11-08T23:03:30Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > How does Larry fit in to all of that? Larry’s really gay, but is pretending to be straight and - much to his displeasure - sleeping with Helen too for the rent reduction. His job is to keep her from finding out he’s gay which the roommates all know. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/79 "2008-11-09T17:14:27Z")
Nudity: _Cybill_ Violence: _Golden Girls_ Profanity: _Newhart_ OK, I’m kidding about the last two. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-shows-you-think-would-have-benefitted-from-nudity-violence-profanity/471229/80 "2008-11-10T01:08:03Z")
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