# TV Tropes has been hacked

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 13, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608 "2008-11-13T22:10:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/21 "2008-11-14T16:22:58Z")

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> [@3trew](#):
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> Dare to dream.
> 
> What if they got together with the virus writers?
> 
> I dream of a world where these people hold conventions. In this world, I am extremely rich and less ethical than I am in the world I currently inhabit.
> 
> A call goes out to bouncers, bikers, boxers, bar brawlers, martial artists, soldiers, skells, gangsters and goons. To any and all of those who can deliver quality bare handed violence. Decent pay, short term contract, full coverage of legal expenses and a generous monthly stipend if you wind up doing time.
> 
> The successful applicants receive convention badges, arm bands, and synchronized watches. They stroll around, marvel at the exploits, maybe buy some software, tape their hands, that kind of stuff. At 3:42 pm the watches beep, and they enter a five minute period during which they hit anyone not wearing an armband until he or she falls down, and then if no other convention goers are about spend the remaining time kicking and stomping those around them. When the 5 minutes is up, they get out of Dodge.
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> The next day, a press release about the importance of physical fitness and self defence is released.

This is an evil plan I can get behind.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Tyger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Silver\_Tyger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Tyger)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/22 "2008-11-14T16:40:21Z")

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It’s back up. I checked the forum and apparently it was the same guy again. No content was lost.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/23 "2008-11-14T17:08:45Z")

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May I just say here that while I abhor hackers and crackers and jackers and stackers and shellackers and all the other -ackers, I’m not that wild about [tvtropes.com](http://tvtropes.com). The trope-obsessed on “The Order of the Stick” constantly reference the tropes as the webcomic goes on, substituting pre-fabricated labels for actual analysis and comprehension of literature.

In terms of Bloom’s Taxonomy, regurgitating the name of the relevant trope is the lowest possible order of cognitive function. Every time I see someone reference a trope, I roll my eyes and say, “You memorized a list. Congratulations.”

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/24 "2008-11-14T17:47:22Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> So, worse case scenario. What could a malicious yet savvy ‘hacker’ do to an unwary pc user? Could they replace all your music files with donkey porn clips, for instance?

So you know people who’ll do this for money? Or are you just bragging.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/25 "2008-11-14T19:04:34Z")

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> [@Omegaman](#):
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> [QUOTE=ivan astikov]  
> So, worse case scenario. What could a malicious yet savvy ‘hacker’ do to an unwary pc user? Could they replace all your music files with donkey porn clips, for instance?

So you know people who’ll do this for money? Or are you just bragging.  
[/QUOTE]

I see no brag, \*\*Ivan \*\*is asking a question.

If Hackers got file system access to a PC they could fairly easily replace all your music with anything else they felt like. It would be a couple of simple scripts. It is the gaining access and desire to be a complete douche that are the hard part.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/26 "2008-11-14T22:41:20Z")

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> [@Fish](#):
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> In terms of Bloom’s Taxonomy, regurgitating the name of the relevant trope is the lowest possible order of cognitive function. Every time I see someone reference a trope, I roll my eyes and say, “You memorized a list. Congratulations.”

There’s more to it than memorizing a list. You have to know where and when to correctly apply the trope.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/27 "2008-11-14T23:00:19Z")

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Great, **NDP.** Still not impressed.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/28 "2008-11-14T23:00:29Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown. And the word “hacker” means “one who accesses computers without permission”.

Like how ‘gay’ means ‘stupid’ now. Linguistic drift happens to us all, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/29 "2008-11-14T23:47:42Z")

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> [@Fish](#):
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> May I just say here that while I abhor hackers and crackers and jackers and stackers and shellackers and all the other -ackers…

What did Kathy Acker ever do to you?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/30 "2008-11-15T02:31:40Z")

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> [@Fish](#):
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> May I just say here that while I abhor hackers and crackers and jackers and stackers and shellackers and all the other -ackers, I’m not that wild about [tvtropes.com](http://tvtropes.com). The trope-obsessed on “The Order of the Stick” constantly reference the tropes as the webcomic goes on, substituting pre-fabricated labels for actual analysis and comprehension of literature.

Or how the anime/manga section is twice as long as every other section combined! I love TV Tropes, but they need to encourage more and varied users to contribute.

Or they need to get some editors who will go in and clean up some of the crap.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/31 "2008-11-15T02:49:25Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Like how ‘gay’ means ‘stupid’ now. Linguistic drift happens to us all, I guess.

When people make major laws repressing the basic human rights of computer hobbyists, then that statement won’t be completely fucking retarded.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/32 "2008-11-15T02:59:50Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Or how the anime/manga section is twice as long as every other section combined! I love TV Tropes, but they need to encourage more and varied users to contribute.

Too true. I must confess to being a troper, and on rare occasions when I do feel my example merits an entry, it will be under literature or webcomics.

> [@Fish](#):
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> In terms of Bloom’s Taxonomy, regurgitating the name of the relevant trope is the lowest possible order of cognitive function. Every time I see someone reference a trope, I roll my eyes and say, “You memorized a list. Congratulations.”

My first instinct is to be offended. I haven’t posted over at the OOTS forums, but I do lurk there (Viva la lurkers!), and find myself doing the trope thing in my head. Some people, especially nerdy people, have a need to fit things into nice neat boxes. OOTS, for example, is based on the Dungeons and Dragons universe. This is a game that attempts to reduce complex issues of morality and ethics into a 9 cell table. [So yeah.](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoYeah)

I do see your point about how dropping a bunch of pot holes and trope names is not the same as having an actual discussion. But honestly, is it _that_ widespread? I know there are some posters who do it frequently, but there are many more posters who _do_ actually discuss the story elements of the strips. If it’s not Great Books level discussion, it’s because the content isn’t Great Books level.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-has-been-hacked/472608/33 "2008-11-15T03:32:53Z")

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> [@Menocchio](#):
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> When people make major laws repressing the basic human rights of computer hobbyists, then that statement won’t be completely fucking retarded.

Which has no bearing whatsoever on what he actually said. Amongst a certain rather sizeable portion of the young, they will say “That’s gay!” when they want to expresss that something is, in their opinion, stupid.

Offensive? Probably to some. Probably not to others.  
Railing against languages makes you sound like someone complaining that “the Homosexuals” stole the perfectly good word gay.

/hijack

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