# TV Tropes question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 15, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070 "2015-03-15T22:35:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/1 "2015-03-15T22:35:07Z")
Where do TV Tropes store their deleted pages? I wanna find a few. ---
**Author:** ![Bo\_Lindbergh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@Bo\_Lindbergh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bo_Lindbergh)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/2 "2015-03-15T22:48:15Z")
I think they are only available as DVD extras. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/3 "2015-03-15T22:51:11Z")
> [@Bo\_Lindbergh](#): > > I think they are only available as DVD extras. ??? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/4 "2015-03-15T22:52:15Z")
Generally, deleted pages cease to be viewable, which is the point of deletion. Depending on the page you want to see, one of the offshoots, like All The Tropes, or the Fetish Fuel Wiki might have them. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/5 "2015-03-15T22:55:54Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Generally, deleted pages cease to be viewable, which is the point of deletion. > > Depending on the page you want to see, one of the offshoots, like All The Tropes, or the Fetish Fuel Wiki might have them. Film/PokemonBlackandWhiteTheMovie. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/6 "2015-03-15T23:01:05Z")
That wasn’t deleted. Just a naming issue…it’s Pokemon the Movie Black and White, not Pokemon Black and White the Movie. It’s also in the [Anime namespace](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/PokemonTheMovieBlackAndWhite), not Film, but [the title in the Film namespace is a disambig](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/PokemonTheMovieBlackAndWhite). ‘Black and White the Movie’ should probably be a redirect, actually… ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/7 "2015-03-15T23:13:54Z")
**Moderator Action** Moving thread from General Questions to Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/8 "2015-03-15T23:20:15Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > That wasn’t deleted. Just a naming issue…it’s Pokemon the Movie Black and White, not Pokemon Black and White the Movie. It’s also in the [Anime namespace](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/PokemonTheMovieBlackAndWhite), not Film, but [the title in the Film namespace is a disambig](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/PokemonTheMovieBlackAndWhite). > > ‘Black and White the Movie’ should probably be a redirect, actually… No, it was different. Go to the Cut Master and ask where do you store the deleted pages. It was a film about Mellodi the trainer. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/9 "2015-03-15T23:50:07Z")
If such a page ever existed, having been deleted means it is no longer around, unless whoever attempted to add it kept a copy, themselves. It is unlikely that it ever existed, however, as there is no film called Pokemon Black and White the Movie, it is a, frankly fairly obscure, joke from a Channel Awesome message board joke thread about a Nostalgia Critic episode from 2048. While TV Tropes isn’t (or at least wasn’t) adverse to creating joke pages for non-existent works, they’re generally locally sourced and incredibly trope-laden, not attempts to help other people’s jokes achieve meme status. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/10 "2015-03-15T23:57:09Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > If such a page ever existed, having been deleted means it is no longer around, unless whoever attempted to add it kept a copy, themselves. > > It is unlikely that it ever existed, however, as there is no film called Pokemon Black and White the Movie, it is a, frankly fairly obscure, joke from a Channel Awesome message board joke thread about a Nostalgia Critic episode from 2048. While TV Tropes isn’t (or at least wasn’t) adverse to creating joke pages for non-existent works, they’re generally locally sourced and incredibly trope-laden, not attempts to help other people’s jokes achieve meme status. No, they didn’t. I remember that joke. EDIT: Maybe ask the Cut Master?! ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/11 "2015-03-16T16:39:36Z")
For many websites in general, you can oftentimes find an old/deleted page via the [Internet Archive](https://archive.org/index.php). Note, you have to know the URL of the page you want, or at least the URL of a web page on the original site that could eventually let you click to it. The closer to it, the better. In addition, the web site has to allow the Archive to crawl it. I checked and TVTropes’ home page is archived and no doubt others. Note that the Archive lists pages by dates, so if you sort of know when you saw that page, there’s some chance you can find that version. Not all aspects of web pages are archived. You can be missing images, scripts, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/12 "2015-03-16T19:11:02Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > For many websites in general, you can oftentimes find an old/deleted page via the [Internet Archive](https://archive.org/index.php). Note, you have to know the URL of the page you want, or at least the URL of a web page on the original site that could eventually let you click to it. The closer to it, the better. > > In addition, the web site has to allow the Archive to crawl it. I checked and TVTropes’ home page is archived and no doubt others. > > Note that the Archive lists pages by dates, so if you sort of know when you saw that page, there’s some chance you can find that version. > > Not all aspects of web pages are archived. You can be missing images, scripts, etc. I couldn’t find it. ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/13 "2015-03-17T07:51:16Z")
Of all the big websites I visit regularly, TVTropes is easily the most…for lack of a better word, ephemeral. Pages, discussions, heck, entire sections are subject to sweeping changes or even deletion at a moment’s notice. Unfortunately, you just have to learn not to get too attached to anything. That’s just the consequence of a website anyone can edit. Sometimes what works for them works against you, and vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/14 "2015-03-17T19:06:45Z")
Does anyone _want_ to see it? If so, drop a mention on Ask the Tropers. Be sure to ask why hijhiysonikku is called a lunatic. Ask if you can see it for yourself to see what they don’t like about it. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/15 "2015-03-28T19:46:40Z")
> [@Shockaholics](#): > > I couldn’t find it. I almost did using the wayback machine, but the page hasn’t been crawled. [![](https://i.imgur.com/ifT89td.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/ifT89td.png) … Can anyone help me find it if they’ve seen it, or know what it’s about? It’s become a part of the Permanent Redlinked Club. We want to take it to Encyclopedia Dramatica for their TV Tropes article, or the All the Tropes Wikia, so one better PM an admin or Ask the Tropers. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/16 "2015-03-28T20:56:12Z")
> [@DKW](#): > > Of all the big websites I visit regularly, TVTropes is easily the most…for lack of a better word, ephemeral. Pages, discussions, heck, entire sections are subject to sweeping changes or even deletion at a moment’s notice. Unfortunately, you just have to learn not to get too attached to anything. That’s just the consequence of a website anyone can edit. Sometimes what works for them works against you, and vice versa. I was afraid that one my favourite edits of the Brian Blessed page was removed to offer just the plain article one. But that over the top edit was so epic that it is still saved, It goes super hammy just like Brian would after a few lines. Close your eyes if you do not like the super ham version: > **[BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SelfDemonstrating/BRIANBLESSED?from=SelfDemonstrating.Ptitleijqobqvle9an)** > > To protect your eyes, and your ears, try this page instead. Perhaps best known in America as Prince Vultan of the Hawkmen in the Flash Gordon movie ("GORDON'S ALIVE?!" "DIIIIIIIIIVVEEEEE!!"), he is widely regarded as one of the Largest Hams in … To protect your eyes 🙂 try the current page: > **[BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/BrianBlessed?from=Main.BrianBlessed)** > > Click here. Receive the largest of hams. You have been warned. We all have that one friend that we know who HAS NO INDOOR VOICE! You know - the one who is REALLY LOUD AND NOISY. Now, meet their King... BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! OBE (born 9 October 1936 … ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/17 "2015-03-28T23:25:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I was afraid that one my favourite edits of the Brian Blessed page was removed to offer just the plain article one. > > But that over the top edit was so epic that it is still saved, It goes super hammy just like Brian would after a few lines. Close your eyes if you do not like the super ham version: > > [SelfDemonstrating / BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! - TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SelfDemonstrating/Ptitleijqobqvle9an?from=SelfDemonstrating.BRIANBLESSED) > > To protect your eyes 🙂 try the current page: > > [BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! (Creator) - TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/BrianBlessed?from=Main.BrianBlessed) Funny stuff, mate. Now, do you remember Film/PokemonBlackandWhiteTheMovie? I have a vague memory of it starring a woman trainer named Mellodi. Tell me if I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/18 "2015-06-15T18:28:23Z")
Try using Google Cache or Coral Cache! ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/19 "2015-06-15T20:01:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I was afraid that one my favourite edits of the Brian Blessed page was removed to offer just the plain article one. > > But that over the top edit was so epic that it is still saved, It goes super hammy just like Brian would after a few lines. Close your eyes if you do not like the super ham version: > > [SelfDemonstrating / BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! - TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SelfDemonstrating/Ptitleijqobqvle9an?from=SelfDemonstrating.BRIANBLESSED) > > To protect your eyes 🙂 try the current page: > > [BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! (Creator) - TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/BrianBlessed?from=Main.BrianBlessed) Not only is he loud,he has an amazing memory. I went to a talk he gave in 1993 about Everest. Half way through he stopped as he’d recognized someone in the audience from his school days almost half a century earlier. I thought at the time it was staged, but then I bumped into him in a lift at work 17 years later and he remembered my name from the book signing. Total legend! ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/20 "2015-06-15T20:16:38Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I was afraid that one my favourite edits of the Brian Blessed page was removed to offer just the plain article one. > But that over the top edit was so epic that it is still saved, It goes super hammy just like Brian would after a few lines. Close your eyes if you do not like the super ham version: > > [SelfDemonstrating / BRIAN BLESSED!!!!! - TV Tropes](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SelfDemonstrating/Ptitleijqobqvle9an?from=SelfDemonstrating.BRIANBLESSED) Very nice, indeed. (Blessed’s Augustus in _I, Claudius_ is one of my favorite characters in any medium. Such a positive guy! And the performance is often quite subtle.) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070.md?page=2)