# TV Tropes question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 15, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070 "2015-03-15T22:35:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Shockaholics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Shockaholics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shockaholics)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/21 "2016-06-09T00:41:25Z")

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Someone recreated the page on All the Tropes Wikia but it’s not exact. BTW, check out Pokemon Black and White: The Movie’s [actual script](http://www.plotbot.com/screenplays/pokemon_black_and_white_the_movie/screenplay)!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/22 "2016-06-09T18:58:37Z")

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Why would you want to see deleted pages? There’s a reason why they’re deleted. Their content is wrong, inaccurate, stupid-looking, and otherwise inferior to whatever took their place.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/23 "2016-06-09T20:35:38Z")

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TV Tropes deleted several “unsavory” pages, which is the reason All the Tropes even exists.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/24 "2016-06-11T04:24:07Z")

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Deleted pages are just that–deleted. You can’t see any Wiki’s deleted pages.

TV Tropes decided to go family friendly a while ago–spurred on by two different attacks where Google Ad got shut off. They didn’t just get rid of problematic pages. They banned all sorts of content and switched from decrying Bowdlerization to liking it. Hell, I was banned for telling them not to get rid of _Lolita_ (though they did eventually bring it back. The old owner just had a trigger finger.)

I hoped the new owners would be more reasonable. And, while they did at least go back and look at the stupidest decisions made by the old owner (who was a bit of an authoritarian), but they kept the basic idea. It’s a shell of what it used to be.

So, yeah, the only solution is to look at either archives or forks, of which All The Tropes is one. Though, if I remember correctly, that one started because of the owner going ban happy.

Hell, he had a superban that actually redirected your IP to Google. Completely useless, since they couldn’t edit anyways, but he got a thrill out of using it.

Yeah, not a lot of love lost from me.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tv-tropes-question/715070/25 "2016-06-12T00:55:17Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> So, yeah, the only solution is to look at either archives or forks, of which All The Tropes is one. Though, if I remember correctly, that one started because of the owner going ban happy.

From their reddit:

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> All The Tropes Wiki is a wiki that was created in late 2013 to serve as an alternative to the increasingly censored and restrictive TV Tropes Wiki.

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