# TVAA banned. Anyone know why? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2003, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329 "2003-12-11T11:08:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/21 "2003-12-11T13:02:32Z")
Let’s be real. **TVAA** is a smart guy, but he went out of his way to difficult. He put _effort_ in to it. ---
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/22 "2003-12-11T13:04:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \* > \*\*Apparently. It seems they travel in packs. \*\* So, apparently dumbasses like you and Desmo travel in pairs? ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/23 "2003-12-11T13:05:29Z")
_Do_ keep posting, **'bottom line**. ---
**Author:** ![Achilles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dc4da7/32.png) [@Achilles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achilles)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/24 "2003-12-11T13:15:15Z")
I would just like to point out that **Achilles Last Stand** and I have nothing in common… Also, is there any chance that I could have _his_ moniker changed ? I don’t want people abbreviating his name to “Achilles”, and then others tarring me with his fuckwit-brush. I got chased by a pack of fuckwits in the desert, once. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/25 "2003-12-11T13:48:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Achilles Last Stand \* > \*\*I can assure you, **Desmostylus** that you are fucking idiot and **And That’s the Bottom Line** can and will post when he/she fucking feels like it. JERK! \*\* Hmmm … Argyle or Tube? ---
**Author:** ![sperfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@sperfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sperfur)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/26 "2003-12-11T13:52:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*Hmmm … > > Argyle or Tube? \*\* Knee? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![DaddyTimesTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f07891/32.png) [@DaddyTimesTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaddyTimesTwo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/27 "2003-12-11T14:00:14Z")
Does **Aide** == **TVAA**? And becausen of this thread I have just realized the little icons to the left of all the thread titles indicate if it’s been locked or not. I may be slow, but I sure ain’t fast. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/28 "2003-12-11T14:07:02Z")
yes, **TVAA** used to be “The VOrlorn Ambassador’s Aide” or something like that, got a lot of flack for his name being so long, and shortened it. ---
**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/29 "2003-12-11T14:25:05Z")
If this thread is all about not acting like a jackoff for no good reason, some of you are doing your damndest to join **TVAA** in the Land of the Banned Asshats. This board is about intelligent debate. If it’s endless flame wars you’re seeking, I understand it’s extremely easy to sign up at Ain’t It Cool News. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/30 "2003-12-11T14:31:59Z")
That’s an important distinction, **Chastain86** , and thanks for bringing it up. What seems to elude some people is the fact that yes, we’re about debate and discussion. But we’re also about the _civilized_ use of debate and discussion. It is **not** necessary to behave in a rude, disruptive or hurtful manner to get one’s point across. This is often referred to as ‘being an adult’. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/31 "2003-12-11T14:32:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Chastain86 \* > **This board is about intelligent debate.** Hahaha! This board is about saying the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Train\_Song](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4da419/32.png) [@Black\_Train\_Song](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Black_Train_Song)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/32 "2003-12-11T14:36:16Z")
I don’t understand the “Jerk” rule. On many occasions I see people acting likes jerks WHILE defending the jerk rule. I know the mods like that rule for its vagueness, but wow. I don’t know TVAA but it looks like he got banned while making what he thought were valid arguments defending his position. If people choose to stay in a thread and battle it out, whats the problem? For instance, his coldfire thread could’ve sank down the page with little notice if people didn’t bother to respond. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/33 "2003-12-11T14:40:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > Ya know, the thread where it happened is still on the front page of the BBQ forum. Guess, if I’d tripped over ‘banned’ under his name, and came to the Pit to ask why, I’d probably notice and check out the thread that is locked w/him as the OP. But that’s just me. Ya know, I’m truly sorry I don’t use the board in the same way you do, oh mighty and clever **wring**. Please accept my apology. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/34 "2003-12-11T14:44:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by And that’s the bottom line \* > \*\*So, apparently dumbasses like you and Desmo travel in pairs? \*\* Did I specifically call you a fuckwit? I didn’t? Well, I am now. Fuckwit. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/35 "2003-12-11T14:46:30Z")
> [@](#): > > …oh mighty and clever **wring** … Doggonnit! Just when I get used to saying “great and powerful”, she changes her honorific… ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/36 "2003-12-11T14:49:25Z")
just pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/37 "2003-12-11T14:52:30Z")
People, people! [whips out guitar, starts playing misc. hippie music] Hows about everyone takes a deep breath or five? It is very soothing. ---
**Author:** ![Siddhartha\_Vicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@Siddhartha\_Vicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siddhartha_Vicious)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/38 "2003-12-11T15:25:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by And that’s the bottom line \* > \*\* Sorry, but the “Don’t be a jerk” rule is too ambiguous for me. \*\* Someone once explained to me that the “Don’t be a jerk” rule is ambiguous on purpose. It would be well-nigh impossible to give a hard and fast definition of what a “jerk” is, and what all the bannable offenses would be. If there was a specific rule about what a “jerk” is, then several jerks would try to find loopholes in order to avoid being banned. Therefore, the powers-that-be came up with a rule that would govern the totality of a posters posts. I don’t think anyone has violated the jerk rule with just one post. Rather, a pattern of jerkiness and disrespect to other posters will result in a banning. Hope that helps. And I hope that’s accurate. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/39 "2003-12-11T15:44:04Z")
IANAModerator, but one of the policies of the board IIRC is that accusations of grievious violations of Board Rules (trolling and socking) be privately reported to the management, and not ventilated in the forums. And BTW, people have been unbanned before, it’s not a death sentence. But heck, this is a _private_ outfit. It has an owner (The _Chicago Reader_) and a management (Admins and Mods) whom the owner has authorized to make the rules and enforce them, and if we don’t like it we don’t have to be here. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/40 "2003-12-11T15:54:23Z")
Before this thread gets locked as sometimes happens when we have discussions of why so-and-so got banned I’d like to welcome Lib back. Bro, you’ve been known to piss me off but then so does everybody now and then. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329.md?page=3)