# TVAA banned. Anyone know why? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2003, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329 "2003-12-11T11:08:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/61 "2003-12-11T20:15:11Z")
It’s probably also worth noting that **TVAA** was speaking, er, ranting in defence of “admitted serial killer Gary Sampson,” who TVAA saw as being a victim of abuse (ironic, really). ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/62 "2003-12-11T20:20:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \* > \*\*Okay, check that. Not everyone who participated that thread, but there were quite a few accusations of trolling sent in the direction of a banned member. \*\* Is there an echo in here? ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/63 "2003-12-11T20:21:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*TVAA was not banned for a single offence. His was continued assholery after being warned. A Deathy By A Thousand Cuts, if you will. > > IMHO \*\* Looked like a classic “Suicide By Mod” to me. Still, with each Banning our mission becomes a little easier. Still, as a few posts here have shown, there remains much to be done. ---
**Author:** ![fiercesheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@fiercesheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiercesheep)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/64 "2003-12-11T20:39:17Z")
Fucking bastard hampsters!!! To summarise a previously brilliant and erradite post (thus making it a bit shit): It never occured to me that TVAA was a troll. He / she always seemed genuine in his beliefs. For what it’s worth, it seems to me (as a lurker) that his abrasive style often overshadowed what he had to say; and he often had a perspective based on genuine knowledge. Was he a jerk? Yes, probably. But I actually enjoyed his posts and will miss his input. I can understand how / why he got people’s backs-up - but I feel the vitriol from some posters was over-the-top. Does the poster make the message? Just my ill-conceived 0.2c ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/65 "2003-12-11T20:44:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by InkBlot \* > \*\*A fuckwit once bit my sister… > \*\* Miind yoo, a fuckwit bite caan be quite naasti. ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/66 "2003-12-11T20:44:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\*Looked like a classic “Suicide By Mod” to me. Still, with each Banning our mission becomes a little easier. Still, as a few posts here have shown, there remains much to be done. \*\* So, I’ve been around here for awhile, and I’ve seen several instances of what appears to be this “go-down-in-flames” approach. _Why do people do that?_ ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/67 "2003-12-11T20:46:25Z")
Isn’t that 20 cents? ---
**Author:** ![fiercesheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@fiercesheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiercesheep)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/68 "2003-12-11T20:51:06Z")
World Eater quoth: ‘Isn’t that 20 cents?’ Probably - I’m English; what the hell am I going to know about your comedy foreign money? :smack: Should have gone for Her Brittanic Majesty’s pence … Gawd save the Queen:D ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/69 "2003-12-11T20:53:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Was he a jerk? Yes, probably. But I actually enjoyed his posts and will miss his input. I feel the same way about Satan and Coll. Won’t miss TVAA, though. ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/70 "2003-12-11T20:56:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fiercesheep \* > \*\*Should have gone for Her Brittanic Majesty’s pence … Gawd save the Queen:D \*\* \That’s one Saved Fuckin’ Queen. It ought to be God Attack the Queen…\ I have nothing substantive to add to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Creative\_Munster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Creative\_Munster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creative_Munster)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/71 "2003-12-11T20:58:50Z")
The phrase is: That’s my two cents. Twenty cents is too much. And .2 cent is 20% of a cent, which is too little. Two cents would have done just nicely. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/72 "2003-12-11T21:01:13Z")
Wow. I just read Tanookie’s thread. Very, VERY little makes me mad on this board. TVAA’s postings just really pissed me off. What a fucking waste of skin. Good riddance, you piece of shit. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/73 "2003-12-11T21:03:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by troub \* > \*\*So, I’ve been around here for awhile, and I’ve seen several instances of what appears to be this “go-down-in-flames” approach. > > _Why do people do that?_ \*\* Several theories: 1. Inability to admited they are wrong or screwed up. They keep fighting the same fight even after being told to knock it off. They know they are right and MUST keep fighting. 2. The garden-variety Attention Whore who keeps posting ever more jerkish material in an effort to keep the spot-light on them. 3. “True Believers” here to witness for their far-right, far-left or just plain crazy beliefs. When questioned on these beliefs, they lose it and attack anyone who questioned them or told them to tone it down. Often related to #5 below. 4. Not as clever as they thought. Some people have overly high opinions of themselves, and therefore seem to think that the rules do not apply to them- as they are such valuable assets to the community. They find out life goes on just fine without them. and finally; 1. The Martyrs. Certain posters become convinced they are being persecuted here because of their beliefs (rather then their jerkish behavior) and rather then accept personal responsibility for their past behavior, they set out to antagonize the Mods and any long time posters they see as emblematic of the vast liberal / conservative / American / European / Illuminati conspiracy against them. These posters doggedly rail on about the Nazi Mods, and the percieved Admin bias against them. Finally, they get Banned. Often, a few creepy fan boys types will emerge to lament their passing, as it reflects their own percieved persecution. A few will go on to repeat the pattern themselves, while others just bore us to death with their constant whining about how bad it is here. Those are my theories, for what they are worth. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/74 "2003-12-11T21:30:23Z")
elf, that’s about the most comprehensive analysis of the situation I’ve seen. I can’t think of any other categories (namely because #5 dominates the field). Well done. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/75 "2003-12-11T21:46:46Z")
elf6c, in addition to your list, I think you can add the Naturally Abrasive and the people who just plain Don’t Get It that they are crossing the line, either because they were raised by wolves or they’re just totally tone deaf to the nuances of civilized discourse. I don’t know if TVAA was actually socially disfunctional, but in his missive to Coldfire, he seemed genuinely puzzled that the world wasn’t acknowledging that he was right, or that there was any reason to question the manner in which he phrased his arguments. I think it may be ---
**Author:** ![tanookie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/48db29/32.png) [@tanookie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanookie)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/76 "2003-12-11T21:47:54Z")
I saw this thread and thought “now what set him off” Then I saw the links. I closed the thread in the hopes that it wouldn’t come to this. I figured he’d pit me and then it would get out of his system. Guess I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/77 "2003-12-11T21:49:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\*Looked like a classic “Suicide By Mod” to me. Still, with each Banning our mission becomes a little easier. Still, as a few posts here have shown, there remains much to be done. \*\* “Our” mission hardly becomes easier if the “ignorant” fuck off, does it? The mission isn’t irradicating ignorance among the SDMB-membership, else they’d just ban you all and leave me, job done! Ho-ho. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/78 "2003-12-11T21:53:20Z")
Isn’t this the guy that refused to accept that he was wrong in some (way over my head) Math Pit thread that went on for something like 10 pages? (I refuse to search for it, lest it not be locked, someone posts to it, and we have to see it again). If so, I’d say it is a combination of **elf6c** ’s #1, #4 and #5. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/79 "2003-12-11T22:09:39Z")
I would like to quote the redoubtable **Esprix** : > [@](#): > > When they came for Phaedrus, I said nothing, for I was not a Jeezer. > > When they came for Jack Dean Tyler, I said nothing, for I was already circumcised. > > When they came for Friend of God, I said nothing, for I regularly took my lithium. > > When they came for Mu-Mu, I said nothing, for I actually liked the mods. > > When they came for me… well, actually, they never did come for me. Know why? 'Cause I didn’t behave like a jerk on the boards, you fucking morons! ---
**Author:** ![InkBlot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b5e925/32.png) [@InkBlot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InkBlot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329/80 "2003-12-11T22:18:35Z")
We need a post-banning interview, kind of like games shows. I’m thinking something ala Weakest Link: _ **TVAA** exits, camera focuses in…_ “Wow…yeah, I thought had **Coldie** there, but **Lynn** came in and it was all over.” Except with our luck, it’d be more like WWE, but with real cursing. InkBlot [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tvaa-banned-anyone-know-why/218329.md?page=5)