# TVeblen-I'm not impressed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942 "2005-01-21T17:47:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/41 "2005-01-21T19:26:26Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Then by all means refuse the charges. Asshole. That would be post#10 redux. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/42 "2005-01-21T19:29:04Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > **Guin:** _I’m just praying that USAMA turns out to be a decent individual, because if he turns out to be a total schmuck, grieny will never let us hear the end of it._ > > Doesn’t matter. Even total schmucks are entitled to the presumption of innocence. Even if **USAMA** turns out to be the ravingest, frothingest, terrorist-cheerleader wackjob that ever spewed on these boards, that still wouldn’t retroactively justify **grienspace** in staging a pre-emptive Pitting of a brand-new poster he knew absolutely nothing about. Oh, I agree with you, but will **grienspace** see it that way? I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/43 "2005-01-21T19:31:38Z")
I got bored of the OP one-third the way through and quit reading, but I’ll just echo everyone else and say ah… you should be ashamed. I had to go to the main page and scroll around even trying to find what everyone is talking about. People pay attention to that eensy little box down there? Man, you have too much free time. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/44 "2005-01-21T19:34:20Z")
Jeepers, yesterday I was thinking, “I bet **Grienspace** is just the sort of flaming asshole to protest his stupid thread being shut down”, and after a couple hours without his having done so, I began to question whether I was wrong after all. This sorely troubled me. Having judged him so harshly, that is. I’m feeling much better today. Thanks for coming through, big guy. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/45 "2005-01-21T19:35:30Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > That would be post#10 redux. Sort of similar, but you didn’t call him an asshole. That’s where I got all original and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/46 "2005-01-21T19:36:54Z")
:rolleyes: Grow up. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/47 "2005-01-21T19:37:39Z")
> [@gobear](#): > > Don’t let those naysayers discourage, you, **Grienspace** , fight the power! Escalate your resistance, maintain your position. Go, **Grienspace** , fly now, go, go, go, go! **Grienspace** , **gobear** is only trying to goad you on for his own amusment. I, however, am totally sincere. Go! Go! Go! Stand up and fight! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/48 "2005-01-21T19:38:06Z")
If the OP has any sense at all, he’ll ask that this thread be closed immediately. If he has any sense of humor, he will adopt this as his new sig line: > [@picker](#): > > **Grienspace** - you’re an intolerant fucktard with the common sense of a bowl of creamed corn. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/49 "2005-01-21T19:40:40Z")
> [@Try As I Might...](#): > > Stand up for what you know is right!! Raise your fist in the air with the olympic protesters in the face of the opposition! I think that as long as we can all agree that the blame ultimately lies with international Jewry that… What? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/50 "2005-01-21T19:40:48Z")
If I were you I would come back to post until I’d hit a bucket of golf balls and had a couple of beers and an orgasm. Seriously, afterwards your priority ducks will line up in a most pleasing row. ---
**Author:** ![Ink\_a\_dink\_a\_dink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ink\_a\_dink\_a\_dink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ink_a_dink_a_dink)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/51 "2005-01-21T19:41:18Z")
Cripes, the hostility here is astounding. What gives folks? **Grien** , perhaps it was a bit presumptuous for you to jump the gun on someone without them declaring an ulterior motive. In my experience, it’s best to curl up in a corner, hidden by the shadows, watch what unfolds and then, if necessary, pounce with superpowers intact. Maybe it was a momentary fleeting spurt of anger that helped you write the first pitting - I don’t blame you for jumping the gun, less so if you personally were affected by the tragedies of 911. It was a little overzealous, but perhaps in time you would have returned to rescind the accusations once a cooler head had prevailed. This pitting, to me, seems an angry reaction and retalitory, and not based in clear-headed thinking. To be jumped on is never a comfortable feeling; if you felt justified by your anger in the first pitting, I imagine it was even more uncomfortable and added fuel to the fire. But I hope you can see the other side of the coin. Take a moment and allow a little distance to gain some perspective. Then, if you still feel the same, by all means follow our instincts, but perhaps back off some vitriol; it does you and your cause no good, and gives the impression of a tad bit of fanaticism, which makes everyone that much more ready to pile on. Take a moment, and rethink, come back when you’re sure. Inky. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/52 "2005-01-21T19:48:08Z")
> [@Maus Magill](#): > > **Grienspace** , **gobear** is only trying to goad you on for his own amusment. > > I, however, am totally sincere. > > Go! Go! Go! > > Stand up and fight! I, for one, am a bit uncomfortable with posts like these. It’s kind of like people yelling “Jump!” to someone standing on a rooftop. I would hope we would chastise someone when they’re wrong, but we wouldn’t encourage them into futher assholery. Fighting ignorance and all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/53 "2005-01-21T19:49:15Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I, for one, am a bit uncomfortable with posts like these. It’s kind of like people yelling “Jump!” to someone standing on a rooftop. Yeah, to someone threatening to kill themselves by jumping off a two story building. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/54 "2005-01-21T19:49:30Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > So are we to to accept the fact that our views on another poster’s action/actions require moderation? > > \ > > Given the partiality that you have displayed here, this warning can only suggest that you’re gunning for me. > > \ > > Let me be clear. I’m not pitting you for your views. I’m pitting you for irresponsible mod behavior. Oooookay. I looked over the thread again in case I’d made a mistake in intrerpretation. Hey’s it’s happened…but it didn’t happen here. You were way out of line, **grienspace**. And exactly what is new about interactions with other posters being subject to moderation? I _am_ responsible for doing exactly that. FWIW–though the level of irrationality you’ve show probably makes this a futile exercise–you can dismiss me ‘gunning for you’ from your apparently daunting list of worries. The warning stands because you acted like a jerk. Just don’t do it again and we’ll all be happy campers. See, isn’t that simple? TVeblen Pit mod ---
**Author:** ![35340](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/8baadc/32.png) [@35340](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/35340)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/55 "2005-01-21T19:52:36Z")
lay off the fucking creamed corn! _scurries off to see if date and time of the OP here is what she picked in the pool_ ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/56 "2005-01-21T19:53:05Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > Sort of similar, but you didn’t call him an asshole. That’s where I got all original and stuff. I guess it’s the little things like that that separate us punters from the classy folk. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/57 "2005-01-21T19:53:57Z")
> [@Ink a dink a dink](#): > > This pitting, to me, seems an angry reaction and retalitory, and not based in clear-headed thinking… I think you just summed up his entire posting history in one sentence. ---
**Author:** ![35340](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/8baadc/32.png) [@35340](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/35340)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/58 "2005-01-21T19:54:49Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I, for one, am a bit uncomfortable with posts like these. It’s kind of like people yelling “Jump!” to someone standing on a rooftop. > > I would hope we would chastise someone when they’re wrong, but we wouldn’t encourage them into futher assholery. Fighting ignorance and all. 🙂 But if they get them selves banned while standing on that two story building over a pile of mattresses, well, isn’t that removing ignorance on some level from the discourse around here? I feel sorry for the further yet to be infected by their move elsewhere, but still … ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/59 "2005-01-21T19:55:08Z")
**grienspace** , I hope you saw this carrion-fest coming. I understand precisely where you were coming from. I agree that the odds are pretty good that “USAMA” is a reference to bin Laden, and that the user with that name is out to troll. And I agree that the vast majority of posters here would not first think of Usama Jones the greengrocer. I think you jumped the gun with your pitting. I also think that there are a bunch of assholes who took that lapse as an opportunity to ram a spike up your ass. And now I think you’ve overreacted, fueling even more of a shit-jumping. :shrug: You have a point. But you should have granted the benefit of the doubt first. Now, this mysterious and anonymous poster is everyone’s darling, even if he never posts. Looks to me as though he’s already trolled us but good. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/60 "2005-01-21T19:56:31Z")
I would also add that I don’t think **Veb** was out of line. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942.md?page=4)