# TVeblen-I'm not impressed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 21, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942 "2005-01-21T17:47:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/61 "2005-01-21T19:59:28Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> I guess it’s the little things like that that separate us punters from the classy folk.

Huh. Earlier today I found out I was elite, and now I discover I’m classy too! Now if only someone calls me stylish I can die a happy man. Maybe if I comb my hair.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/62 "2005-01-21T20:00:32Z")

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And now strictly unofficially…

I believe I hold the record among mods for blandness, and probably am in the running among general posters as well. I’ve been around since rock was invented but this is _the first time I’ve ever been Pitted!_.

I can now stand tall, scarred but proud, an equal among equals with fascistic oppressers like **bibliophage, xash, Dr. Matrix, SamClem** and **Ukulele Ike**.

But…for _this_?!

Somehow it sort of fizzles for sweep and majesty, y’know?

Oh well.

Officially Pitted,  
Veb

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/63 "2005-01-21T20:01:41Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Huh. Earlier today I found out I was elite, and now I discover I’m classy too! Now if only someone calls me stylish I can die a happy man. Maybe if I comb my hair.

You have _hair?_ Now that’s just flaunting.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/64 "2005-01-21T20:02:45Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> I can now stand tall, scarred but proud, an equal among equals with fascistic oppressers like **bibliophage, xash, Dr. Matrix, SamClem** and **Ukulele Ike**.

Your jackboots are in the mail.

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**Author:** ![Bean\_Counter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/db5fbb/32.png) [@Bean\_Counter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bean_Counter)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/65 "2005-01-21T20:12:55Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> Somehow it sort of fizzles for sweep and majesty, y’know?

Some of the greatest people in history came from humble beginnings, ya know? Keep working on it and one day, you too might receive such pittings as Coldfire or Uncle Beer.

Trying switching footwear from your Cookie Monster slippers to some nice, leather jack-boots. It’s hard to be a jack-booted thug without 'em!

Oops, I see in preview **This Year’s Model** beat me to the footwear idea. Damn.

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**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/66 "2005-01-21T20:13:38Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> I’ve been around since rock was invented but this is _the first time I’ve ever been Pitted!_.

That’s what you get for being so goddamned reasonable all the time. You need to polish up your snarky comments.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/67 "2005-01-21T20:16:05Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> And now strictly unofficially…
> 
> I believe I hold the record among mods for blandness, and probably am in the running among general posters as well. I’ve been around since rock was invented but this is _the first time I’ve ever been Pitted!_.
> 
> I can now stand tall, scarred but proud, an equal among equals with fascistic oppressers like **bibliophage, xash, Dr. Matrix, SamClem** and **Ukulele Ike**.
> 
> But…for _this_?!
> 
> Somehow it sort of fizzles for sweep and majesty, y’know?
> 
> Oh well.
> 
> Officially Pitted,  
> Veb

I seem to remember a pitting of you by **Liberal** upon his discovery of your position as Pit mod, which you then closed by virtue of it being a joke. Do I remember correctly? Has that thread been disappeared? Or are just ashamed because your first pitting was so lame?

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/68 "2005-01-21T20:16:24Z")

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There is a small part of me that wonders…

Now keep in mind that we are getting into tin-foil hat territory here and this is only conjecture, I am not accusing anyone of anything, but what if **grienspace** is so sure of **USAMAs** intent because, and again this is only just a what if, **grieny** created the **USAMA** name himself to have something to rant on about? I find it odd that this **USAMA** has posted nary a word.

But then, if that were true, then **grienspace** would probably come in as **USAMA** and post something inflamitory to prove himself right. That hasn’t happened yet, so I guess I am likely wrong. But if **USAMA** does do that, it still doesn’t prove anything.

Or this could all have come to mind because I have been running a 100+ degree temp for three days now, and am a little addled right now.  
Oh and Congrats **TVeblen** on the pitting, altho it is a bit of a lame one.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/69 "2005-01-21T20:19:23Z")

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> [@grienspace](#):
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> > [@TVeblen](#):
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> > You don’t know the slightest thing about him so your aggressive hosility is completely undeserved.
> 
> How do you know that him is a him? Assumptions about gender have often been proven wrong here. In any case how much do we know of anyone who we pit here? Furthermore, I take issue with your characterization of aggressive hostility. Saluting someone with a hearty fuck you is so common to almost become meaningless.

This certainly elicited a chuckle.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/70 "2005-01-21T20:26:41Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> Stanley Bin laden?

Stanley Obama, of course! 😛 Though Barrak S. could be kinda funny…  
Or if Osama Bin Ladin married Barrak Obama, he’d be Osama Obama!  
I think I just hurt my brain… 😕

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**Author:** ![TheInterruptingCow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9c0ed/32.png) [@TheInterruptingCow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheInterruptingCow)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/71 "2005-01-21T20:32:12Z")

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> [@Mac Guffin](#):
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> There is a small part of me that wonders…
> 
> Now keep in mind that we are getting into tin-foil hat territory here and this is only conjecture, I am not accusing anyone of anything, but what if **grienspace** is so sure of **USAMAs** intent because, and again this is only just a what if, **grieny** created the **USAMA** name himself to have something to rant on about? I find it odd that this **USAMA** has posted nary a word…

I must be addled, too, because that was _precisely_ my first thought.

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/72 "2005-01-21T20:41:57Z")

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> [@Mynn](#):
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> But if they get them selves banned while standing on that two story building over a pile of mattresses, well, isn’t that removing ignorance on some level from the discourse around here?

Well, yes, in a sense, but I think the idea is not to get rid of ignorant _people_, but instead to help them overcome their ignorance.

Some of 'em resist pretty vigorously though, which is why we have mods to decide the moment at which expending further effort on them is simply feeding hay to a dead horse.

Anyway. The score do far:

**grienspace: 0  
TVeblen: 70**

Make of it what you will.

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**Author:** ![galt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@galt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galt)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/73 "2005-01-21T20:48:01Z")

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One more vote cast for **grienspace** being a total fucking douchebag.

**Loopydude’s** post on page 2 of the locked thread made me laugh out loud.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/74 "2005-01-21T20:54:40Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> Well, yes, in a sense, but I think the idea is not to get rid of ignorant _people_, but instead to help them overcome their ignorance.
> 
> Some of 'em resist pretty vigorously though, which is why we have mods to decide the moment at which expending further effort on them is simply feeding hay to a dead horse.

Oh, sure – a dead horse that _eats the hay and comes back to life, still stinking of carrion!!!_

You heard it here first, folks: **grienspace** is a zombiequine.

…what?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/75 "2005-01-21T21:02:35Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I, for one, am a bit uncomfortable with posts like these. It’s kind of like people yelling “Jump!” to someone standing on a rooftop.
> 
> I would hope we would chastise someone when they’re wrong, but we wouldn’t encourage them into futher assholery. Fighting ignorance and all. 🙂

**ivylass** , you are absolutely correct. Usually, I leave these posts untyped. The way to combat rudeness is not with more rudeness.

**grienspace** , I offer my humble apologies for making fun and being rude, two traits I do not abide in others when directed towards me. I should not have done so towards you.

Seriously, though, dude, you need to lighten up. Your first thread was not entirely called for, and this one only highlights it.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/76 "2005-01-21T21:10:59Z")

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/77 "2005-01-21T21:15:51Z")

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hehehehe **Liberal** 🙂  
**grienspace** , I agree with **Ink a dink a dink** [I’ve always wanted to type that name] :

> [@](#):
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> Cripes, the hostility here is astounding. What gives folks?

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/78 "2005-01-21T21:16:33Z")

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> [@Uvula Donor](#):
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> Your OP in that thread nominated you for the Fuckhead Medal.
> 
> Your subsequent posts there got it awarded.
> 
> So, I take it the purpose of this thread is to get the Attention Whore Oak Leaf Cluster?

Is that an Easter Egg in Tie Fighter? Here I thought the various Body Parts of the Emperor awards were da shizzy, but now you say there’s all these Fuckhead Medals and associated addon units? Tell me more!

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/79 "2005-01-21T21:31:25Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> Seriously, though, dude, you need to lighten up. Your first thread was not entirely called for, and this one only highlights it.

Several folks tried to point that out in the first thread, too.

I can appreciate why you’d not take that advice, especially from some one like me, who more often than not disagrees strongly w/you, but perhaps you recall that my most recent comment to you was in support -

in any event. You may have been correct about USAMA’s intentions. We don’t know. HOwever, since they’d not posted yet, it was indeed a pre-emptive. So, apparently you thought the person was a troll, troublemaker, perhaps a sock, at the very least some one who should be kept an eye on.

and the Powers That Be here have made it pretty damn clear that their preferred method for getting such information is by email. that’s why they have that ‘report this post’ feature. I suspect that had you done so, there may have been a request for a postername change, maybe not, but we’ll never know now. IN any event, pitting someone for being a troll is specifically frowned on. And not all that good of a thing if you merely think they’re **going to be** one.

So, the original pit thread was “bad idea”. A mod closing a “bad idea” thread is common. **Veb’s** comments to you weren’t as snide as many I’ve seen from mods in their thread closures. YOur choice then was to either learn from you original mistake (taking out a thread vs. email) or not to.

YOu still have a choice again. HOpefully you’ll choose wisely.  
to **Veb** - Back when I ran a correction center, my supervisor was a ‘yeller’. She’d raise her voice and scream at folks on a regular basis. People accepted it w/o complaint. I, OTOH have never been a “yeller”. One day, however, something happened (can’t remember what, doesn’t matter) and I raised my voice. Damn did I hear about it. “You **yelled** at me!!!” it’s the contrast in styles w/in the person that leads to the reaction I think.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/80 "2005-01-21T22:21:53Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> I can now stand tall, scarred but proud, an equal among equals with fascistic oppressers like **bibliophage, xash, Dr. Matrix, SamClem** and **Ukulele Ike**.
> 
> But…for _this_?!
> 
> Somehow it sort of fizzles for sweep and majesty, y’know?

Yeah. Well, you’ve got a _long_ way to go before you catch up with **CK Dexter Haven** , anyway. But I guess it’s a start.

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