# TVeblen-I'm not impressed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 21, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942 "2005-01-21T17:47:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/141 "2005-01-22T15:19:45Z")

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> [@grienspace](#):
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> \<SNIP\>Why am I so viled ? Why do you think I deserve such a shitting? Am I fundamentally an evil person? I did what I did in the spirit of anyone who believes in the golden rule. I challenged someone on their choice of username? \<SNIP\>

I’m sorry **Grienspace** , I’ve been pulling for you. But no, now I can’t get behind you. “The Golden Rule” says “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you” (Matthew 7:12).

Since you started by trashing someone in the pit and are claiming it was done in the spirit of the golden rule, are we then to assume you wanted to be trashed too - you know the “as you would have them do to you” part of the rule? I don’t think that is what you mean, since you have taken umbrage at the trashing you’ve been given.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/142 "2005-01-22T16:35:02Z")

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_I’ve_ never been called a fucking douchebag. _grumble_ Why haven’t _I_ ever been Pitted, huh?

So who won the betting pool on **grienspace**?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/143 "2005-01-22T16:39:33Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> _I’ve_ never been called a fucking douchebag. _grumble_ Why haven’t _I_ ever been Pitted, huh?

Quitchyer bitchin, you fucking douchebag.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/144 "2005-01-22T16:45:42Z")

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OP was about **TVeblen**.

**TVeblen** is a Ass.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/145 "2005-01-22T16:58:29Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> I’m sorry **Grienspace** , I’ve been pulling for you. But no, now I can’t get behind you. “The Golden Rule” says “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you” (Matthew 7:12).
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> Since you started by trashing someone in the pit and are claiming it was done in the spirit of the golden rule, are we then to assume you wanted to be trashed too - you know the “as you would have them do to you” part of the rule? I don’t think that is what you mean, since you have taken umbrage at the trashing you’ve been given.

He’s using the other version of the golden rule

> [@](#):
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> Do unto others before they do unto you

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/146 "2005-01-22T17:03:17Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> OP was about **TVeblen**.

Look what the cat dragged in.

_picks **New Iskander** up with paper towel - wraps in newspaper - drops in trash_

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/147 "2005-01-22T17:10:39Z")

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> [@Happy Lendervedder](#):
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> Quitchyer bitchin, you fucking douchebag.

Yay! _bounces_

…wait… :dubious: 😕

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**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/148 "2005-01-22T18:16:33Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Look what the cat dragged in.
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> _picks **New Iskander** up with paper towel - wraps in newspaper - drops in trash_

pity you wasted a good newspaper on New Iskander

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/149 "2005-01-22T18:22:35Z")

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> [@This Year's Model](#):
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> Look what the cat dragged in.
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> _picks **New Iskander** up with paper towel - wraps in newspaper - drops in trash_

Bad cat!

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/150 "2005-01-22T18:43:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Barbarian** said:  
> Oh shut the fuck up. USAMA hasn’t made a single post yet, and you’re already tarring him by association. There’s an expression for that: judging a book by its cover. At least wait until USAMA makes a post or hundred before bringing him to the Pit.

My sister has a friend whos name is Usama. He’s Pakistani and has an olive complexion. He worked with her at a prveious job which put them both in direct contact with the public a lot of the time. After September 11, poor Usama who has no relation to and no love at all for Usama Bin Laden was accosted on numerous occasions, apparently beause the name on his ID tag. This kid had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any terrorism, left Pakistan and much of his family knowing he could not ever return because he wanted a good education and a better life, and he got shit on to the point that he went to his boss and asked for a new ID to wear to work.

He had to change his ID badge to ‘Juan’ because people got so immediately uptight over his _name_. That just ain’t right. I agree with you, **Barbarian**. We should find out what someone’s all about before we jump in their shit.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/151 "2005-01-22T18:55:54Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> **TVeblen** is a Ass.

Y’know, from any other poster, I’d have first figured that it was a riff on Dickens, then considered the possibility of a typo. With [n]N I\*\*, I suspect that it is just bad English.

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**Author:** ![New\_Iskander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@New\_Iskander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Iskander)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/152 "2005-01-22T20:42:26Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Y’know, from any other poster, I’d have first figured that it was a riff on Dickens, then considered the possibility of a typo. With [n]N I\*\*, I suspect that it is just bad English.

Classic **tomndebb**. Starts with a reasonable hunch, experiences cerebral overload, switches to partisan rhetoric, shits pants, runs into the outhouse.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/153 "2005-01-22T20:47:48Z")

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> [@New Iskander](#):
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> Classic **tomndebb**. Starts with a reasonable hunch, experiences cerebral overload, switches to **partisan** rhetoric, shits pants, runs into the outhouse.

(bolding mine) What the fuck on you on about?

And for the entire comment: Are you, too, simply resorting to insults for insult’s sake?

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/154 "2005-01-22T20:51:16Z")

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So how do you find the profile page for someone who’s never posted? How would you even know the profile existed?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/155 "2005-01-22T21:02:56Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> _I’ve_ never been called a fucking douchebag. _grumble_ Why haven’t _I_ ever been Pitted, huh?

Hey! Take a number and wait for your turn, you newbie wannabe Pittee! You gotta be at least a doucheing fuckbag before you rate your own Pit thread.

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**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/156 "2005-01-22T21:38:43Z")

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Yeah, so what exactly is in ol’ **grienspiece’s** history that everyone’s all up in arms about this thread?

Yes, he’s being unreaonable, but why all of the latent hostility?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/157 "2005-01-22T21:40:25Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> So how do you find the profile page for someone who’s never posted? How would you even know the profile existed?

I assume from the “welcome to our newest member” note on the front page.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/158 "2005-01-22T22:30:44Z")

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**catsix:** \*My sister has a friend whos name is Usama. […] He had to change his ID badge to ‘Juan’ because people got so immediately uptight over his name. That just ain’t right. \*

Ditto ditto. Maybe this is a time to point out that “Usama” is a very treasured name among Muslims, literally meaning “lion” (like the names "Leo"and “Ari”) and commemorating the beloved friend of the Prophet Muhammad, Usama ibn Zaid. (In a real mind-bender, at least one [gay Muslim group](http://www.gayegypt.com/islam2.html) suggests that Usama may have been involved in a homoerotic friendship, though not necessarily a sexual relationship, with the Prophet—sorta David-and-Jonathan thing.)

Of course, as I said, it’s perfectly possible that our new member **USAMA** could turn out in fact to be a terrorist-loving troll, in which case there will be ample time to tear him apart for it in the Pit. Imagine, if that turned out to be the case, and if **grienspace** had only waited for actual evidence before launching his attack, he could have had everyone here Pitting **with** him instead of Pitting **at** him. Tragic, really.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/159 "2005-01-22T22:48:19Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> I assume from the “welcome to our newest member” note on the front page.

Maybe everyone should get pitted upon joining, just to feel welcome. And let me add that **wonderland** is a lousy fig.

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tveblen-im-not-impressed/285942/160 "2005-01-22T22:59:30Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> (bolding mine) What the fuck on you on about?
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> And for the entire comment: Are you, too, simply resorting to insults for insult’s sake?

No, **NI** is just piggy-backing a bile fest. See, I was the latest one to warn him about his behavior so apparently the opportunity was too tempting to resist. **Tomndebb** , noted oppressor and of infamous hair-trigger temper his own self, was fair game as well apparently. A real pisser that he wasn’t even given credit for the classy Dickens riff, though.

Veb  
All joking aside, grienspace shouldn’t be put into Coventry over this. Tomndebb was right about another thing: grienspace is far above the run of sockish-trolls-for-kicks. He just got carried away. The point of a warning is more to guide somebody toward posting well, not driving him (default pronoun) away. This thread wasn’t a good idea but it wasn’t a cardinal sin either. It shouldn’t be made so vitriolic that he can’t gather himself and come back if he wants.

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