# Twenty Days Has October Rants - The Rest Are On Furlough **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 1, 2013, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074 "2013-10-01T07:23:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/141 "2013-10-05T04:18:23Z")
Please don’t get me started on shoes. I have wide feet. I can wear pretty shoes for a couple of hours, but when I buy boots or walking shoes, I always used to be able to buy a boy’s size and I knew the right size. I’ve recently learned that those sizes are changing as well and will be returning a pair of shoes I bought online. Same maker, same make and model, same size that I’ve worn for years, but they are too small. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/142 "2013-10-05T04:32:46Z")
Yeah well, I made the mistake of trying on some Levi’s last Christmas. They’re supposed to come in curvy now, yes? Even the curviest variant still needs fitting, plus I swear whomever made them never heard of bumps. They were a continuous curve… my outside is most definitely not a continuous curve from waist to ankle. Now, not taking extra-wide thighs into account, ooook, if you have thick thighs you’re not supposed to wear Levi’s, gotcha, but knees? Knees are standard! It’s as if they took their old straight-lines design and just pulled the outside out. The attendant was completely befuddled. They were in the middle of the launch, and every “oh cool, they make Levi’s for me now!” woman who’d walked into the store had walked out shaking her head; she’d barely sold anything to new customers. Originally they hadn’t received any of the extra-curvies, which were the ones selling less badly (apparently those are supposed to be for black women… “you mean, like the lady who owns the jewelry store next door?” Hello, we’ve got black people living all over the country now! Welcome to the 21st century!). ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/143 "2013-10-05T05:38:02Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Speaking of itching, this past Monday I went out in the garden to pick the last of the vegetables (carrots were all that was left) and was trimming the tops and getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. Mostly around the ankles. And, since the days are so short now, the activity seemed to increase the darker it got. My lower legs, especially the ankles, look like they have measles. The itching has finally subsided today. Benadryl. Keep some of it in your house at all times, or the generic equivalent. Just don’t drive or operate heavy machinery after you take it. I tell you, that stuff is priceless. When I had my latest allergic reaction, I itched all over, and started getting hives. I took two Benadryl, and the symptoms were gone within 30 or 45 minutes. > [@flatlined](#): > > Yes, **Rhiannon8404** congrats!!! That must have been a big life change for you, I’ll bet you look fab in your fitting jeans 🙂 > > I’m in total agreement with your size rant. Its got a good beat and we can all dance to it because we know the steps so well. > > I once made the mistake of buying 5 shirts without trying them all on. Same maker, same shelf, same price, everything the same but the color. I took them home, washed and ironed them and hung them in my closet, foolishly expecting them all to fit when I put them on in the morning. I had to return 3 of them. > > Have you put your hands in the pockets yet? I really hates it when I buy the perfect pair of jeans and they have those useless 2 inch deep pockets. Women use pockets too, designers!!! > > My rant: Steve the feral cat has deceided that he doesn’t like Buttercup the dog. I have no idea why, Buttercup doesn’t mess with him or his stuff. Steve gets under the furniture and ignores people and cats, but if our poor dog gets close, he snarls at her and slashes demon fast claws at her ankles and toes. > > Tonight, Bill patted the couch next to him and called her and she stopped to look under it before she cuddled with him. This just isn’t working, we are going to start keeping the door shut so Steve can’t come down the stairs to terrorize her. > > At least Buttercup isn’t afraid of all cats. She’s BFF with Lucky, but Bill says that’s because dogs like the smell of garbage. I swear, I don’t think that clothing designers actually THINK about the women who might want to wear their clothing. It seems perfectly possible to design men’s clothing that is both attractive AND functional, so why can’t women’s clothing be like that, too? And poor Buttercup. She sounds like a wonderful dog, and doesn’t deserve to be bullied. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/144 "2013-10-05T05:44:58Z")
Thanks, Everyone. It’s be a lot of hard work and I’m about 25 lbs from goal, but I am focusing on maintaining what I’ve lost far through the end of the year before I try to lose some more. I have lots of practice losing weight. Very little at maintaining that loss. > [@Chanteuse](#): > > I don’t know if I’ve ever had black jeans that weren’t smaller than the blue ones of identical make and size. Interesting, it’s been a very long time since I’ve had black jeans, so I don’t remember if that was the case. > [@flatlined](#): > > Have you put your hands in the pockets yet? I really hates it when I buy the perfect pair of jeans and they have those useless 2 inch deep pockets. Women use pockets too, designers!!! > [@Seanette](#): > > One of my ongoing peeves in life. We don’t always WANT to HAVE to carry a purse, designers! Yep! Decent sized pockets. Yay! > [@flatlined](#): > > Please don’t get me started on shoes. I have wide feet. I can wear pretty shoes for a couple of hours, but when I buy boots or walking shoes, I always used to be able to buy a boy’s size and I knew the right size. I’ve recently learned that those sizes are changing as well and will be returning a pair of shoes I bought online. > > Same maker, same make and model, same size that I’ve worn for years, but they are too small. My sister has very similar issue with shoes. Very frustrating! > [@Nava](#): > > Yeah well, I made the mistake of trying on some Levi’s last Christmas. They’re supposed to come in curvy now, yes? > > Even the curviest variant still needs fitting, plus I swear whomever made them never heard of bumps. They were a continuous curve… my outside is most definitely not a continuous curve from waist to ankle. Now, not taking extra-wide thighs into account, ooook, if you have thick thighs you’re not supposed to wear Levi’s, gotcha, but knees? Knees are standard! It’s as if they took their old straight-lines design and just pulled the outside out. > > The attendant was completely befuddled. They were in the middle of the launch, and every “oh cool, they make Levi’s for me now!” woman who’d walked into the store had walked out shaking her head; she’d barely sold anything to new customers. Originally they hadn’t received any of the extra-curvies, which were the ones selling less badly (apparently those are supposed to be for black women… “you mean, like the lady who owns the jewelry store next door?” Hello, we’ve got black people living all over the country now! Welcome to the 21st century!). That was my problem with Levi’s when I was heavier. No matter what size I put on, they didn’t fit somewhere on my body. Not even the curviest styles. I very nearly didn’t try these on, but they were on sale for a very good price and I was curious to see if they would fit. I about cried right there in the dressing room when they did. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/145 "2013-10-05T05:47:26Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I swear, I don’t think that clothing designers actually THINK about the women who might want to wear their clothing. It seems perfectly possible to design men’s clothing that is both attractive AND functional, so why can’t women’s clothing be like that, too? Partly because of differring expectations: most guys don’t wear clothes as form-fitting as women’s, nor are they expected to. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/146 "2013-10-05T06:13:57Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > …I have lots of practice losing weight. Very little at maintaining that loss… Preach it, sister. I’m about 4kg from goal (yet again) and if I bounce back up (yet again), well it isn’t going to be pretty. ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/147 "2013-10-05T10:34:45Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > What I don’t get is how come the same jeans in the same exact brand and style, but different color are so different in size that I cannot even button them. > > See I’ve lost a lot of weight over the last year and a half, around 75 lbs. I’m really excited to be wearing super cute, normal size-range jean. I was at Kohl’s and found the Levi’s Mid-rise Skinny jean. They only had the lighter of the two blue color in my size (I need a short), so I got those and ordered the dk blue and black. They came today. The dark blue fits great, just like the lighter blue. I can barely get the black ones on and there’s no way in hell they’re getting buttoned and zipped. Not even when I laid down on my bed like we used to do in the 70’s and 80’s to get our Dittos zipped up. I’ve heard bad things about Levi’s lately regarding that exact issue. Apparently they changed how they cut the pieces out of the material so no two pairs of jeans fit the same anymore, even in the same type and size. That’s why I’m sticking to Lee’s right now. They still fit right. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/148 "2013-10-05T12:06:23Z")
I’d loved the “Dreamer” fit of jeans made by Old Navy but since they’re not skinny-legged or the super-curvy hourglass style, they stopped carrying them in-store and only sell online. (I checked the online “search in store inventory” option and there are none within 50 miles of Chicago.) Worse yet, per the online reviews, people are complaining that they’re using shitty denim to make them in the last year or so. I’m disappointed because previously I could buy jeans off-the-rack if I went there - due to my long leg length, it’s not easy for me to do that for jeans or pants. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/149 "2013-10-05T12:46:16Z")
> [@SpazCat](#): > > Apparently they changed how they cut the pieces out of the material so no two pairs of jeans fit the same anymore, even in the same type and size. That’s why I’m sticking to Lee’s right now. They still fit right. That’s actually pretty common–they stack multiple pieces of fabric up and cut them together to make the process more efficient. The thing is, fabric layers shift around when you do that, and the more layers there are the more shifting you get. The more shifting you get, the more differently-sized your pieces get. The cheaper the clothing, the more likely they are to use bigger stacks to save time/labor, so the more size variation you’re likely to have. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/150 "2013-10-05T16:24:07Z")
> [@flatlined](#): > > My rant: Steve the feral cat has deceided that he doesn’t like Buttercup the dog. I have no idea why, Buttercup doesn’t mess with him or his stuff. Steve gets under the furniture and ignores people and cats, but if our poor dog gets close, he snarls at her and slashes demon fast claws at her ankles and toes. > > Tonight, Bill patted the couch next to him and called her and she stopped to look under it before she cuddled with him. This just isn’t working, we are going to start keeping the door shut so Steve can’t come down the stairs to terrorize her. > > At least Buttercup isn’t afraid of all cats. She’s BFF with Lucky, but Bill says that’s because dogs like the smell of garbage. I wonder is Steve is cranky still over his teeth and is taking it out on Buttercup. Poor little Buttercup. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/151 "2013-10-05T18:38:25Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > Poor little Buttercup. Sweet little Buttercup? (wanders off, chuckling) ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/152 "2013-10-05T20:41:14Z")
I’ve also been told that different colors of pants are often made at different factories, even if the styles are the same. I’ve completely given up on women’s pants…every pair of pants (and shorts) I own, with the exception of two pairs of dress pants, came from the men’s department. I still have the color issue though…for instance, with L.L. Bean tropic-weight pants, the dark khaki ones have a very good fit, while the light khaki (in the same size) are consistently way too tight. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/153 "2013-10-05T20:50:58Z")
A podcaster (Scott Johnson of the Frogpants Network) has asserted that Nike factories make only one half of a shoe’s pair - i.e., one factory does all left shoes and another all right shoes. Since my husband has one foot slightly larger than the other and he never fits properly into Nikes, I think this might explain much. They might be off just enough (or just tight enough on sizing) that they don’t work for him but other brands do. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/154 "2013-10-05T22:07:16Z")
Why are some people such assholes? I was at a nice garage sale this morning, looking over some shoes for my girls. They outgrow them all the time so buying them used makes sense. I had three pairs I thought might do nicely. I placed two in in my bag for a minute and put the other one on my toddler daughter’s feet. Some asshole literally grabbed the two pairs out of my bag! When I told him they were mine, he had the nerve to say not anymore! My inner New Yorker told the fucker that he either put them back in my bag or I would have him prosecuted for pickpocketing. The SOB threw the shoes on the floor and gave me a dirty look. Fucking asshole. I later saw him taking things at the same literally out of people’s bags. I’m sorry I didn’t tell the people running the place about his antics. ---
**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/155 "2013-10-05T22:23:32Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > I wonder is Steve is cranky still over his teeth and is taking it out on Buttercup. Poor little Buttercup. I strongly suspect that is what is going on. Steve had a very hard week. 2 vet visits in a week is enough to stress most kitties out. Even though we used drugs, Steve was all sorts of freaked out. > [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Benadryl. Keep some of it in your house at all times, or the generic equivalent. Just don’t drive or operate heavy machinery after you take it. I tell you, that stuff is priceless. When I had my latest allergic reaction, I itched all over, and started getting hives. I took two Benadryl, and the symptoms were gone within 30 or 45 minutes. > > I swear, I don’t think that clothing designers actually THINK about the women who might want to wear their clothing. It seems perfectly possible to design men’s clothing that is both attractive AND functional, so why can’t women’s clothing be like that, too? > > And poor Buttercup. She sounds like a wonderful dog, and doesn’t deserve to be bullied. Drugs are wonderful. Benadryl is awesome for allergies and my ocular migranes. I have some with me always. I really do wish I could still get Ketamine, I loved that stuff. It was so predictible, I could put some in gooshy food, see how much the kitty had eaten and know almost to the second when kitty was going to go to sleep. If I had some now, Steve would have a low grade buzz for the next couple of weeks. Asshole druggy humans sure fucked that up for a lot of critters and caretakers. Buttercup is a wonderful dog, **Lynn**. Thanks again for suggesting a grayhound. You were totally right about how they are very well trained and super easy to handle. She is a Very Good Dog and we are glad that we took your advice. We are not going to let Steve terrorize her. Steve will be just fine upstairs, we just have to remember to close the door for a couple of weeks. (Now that I’m thinking about it, I’m even more grumpy about fucking asshole druggies making it so I can’t have ketamine on hand.) ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/156 "2013-10-06T00:07:28Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > One of my ongoing peeves in life. We don’t always WANT to HAVE to carry a purse, designers! > > I firmly believe the fashion industry is run by pseudo-male extraterrestrials with a major hatred of human women and a shaky grasp of anatomy (especially when it comes to shoes). Back when I was thin I got the size up Levi 501 buttonflys, took in the waist and hemmed the legs to the right length. Solid, durable, _pocketses_ I rarely look for _cute_ in clothes, I am not a _cute_ sort of woman, thanks. I want comfortable, durable, practical clothing. Women’s _cute_ crap is usually that, poorly made, cheap fabric, designed for one season so that you have to shop for all new clothes when the season shifts. > [@bobkitty](#): > > Sweet little Buttercup? > > (wanders off, chuckling) \ ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/157 "2013-10-06T04:03:27Z")
> [@SpazCat](#): > > I’ve heard bad things about Levi’s lately regarding that exact issue. Apparently they changed how they cut the pieces out of the material so no two pairs of jeans fit the same anymore, even in the same type and size. That’s why I’m sticking to Lee’s right now. They still fit right. Another vote for Lees - they fit and there isn’t any size difference between the colors. ---
**Author:** ![Cheez\_Whia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@Cheez\_Whia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheez_Whia)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/158 "2013-10-06T04:42:37Z")
I wish Lees had a longer inseam; they are always too short for me. ☹ I got some Dickies jeans and work slacks from Amazon. They actually run a little large. Good prices, too! ---
**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/159 "2013-10-06T12:49:35Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If your PJ’s are that old, I think you’re wearing lint held together with surface tension. erm… I have a couple of nighties. My mother wore them when she was pregnant with me. 40 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074/160 "2013-10-06T12:54:51Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > I have a small but annoying pimple on my flippin’ earlobe. Dafuq? Who gets a zit on the side of their ear? Me, that’s who. Apparently. > > I have bills to pay and some personal paperwork to attend to and I’m pretty sure I’m gonna ignore all of it to zone out in front of \*Sopranos \*reruns for the entire evening and then kick myself tomorrow for it. Ah, well - that’s what tomorrow is for, right? I get ones inside my ear canal. Bad very very bad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-days-has-october-rants-the-rest-are-on-furlough/670074.md?page=9)