# Twenty-one Dead in Thailand. Minimal Press Coverage **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 9, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657 "2020-02-09T01:44:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/21 "2020-02-09T21:59:01Z")
> [@albino\_manatee](#): > > imho … he shouldn’t have gotten any coverage at all … fleas like him need to be burned at the stake … for taking other innocent lives in his _“agenda”_ … definitely does not constitute any _‘immortalization’_. **Paul in Qatar** thinks the story isn’t getting enough attention. You think it’s getting too much attention. How about you get together and decide how much attention it should get? Personally, I think Americans, at least, are just jaded about mass shootings. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/22 "2020-02-09T22:19:00Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > **Paul in Qatar** thinks the story isn’t getting enough attention. You think it’s getting too much attention. How about you get together and decide how much attention it should get? I’ve certainly wondered whether it’s best if such mass shootings weren’t publicized at all, to cut down on how many other people get the idea (or have it reinforced) to do likewise. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/23 "2020-02-09T23:14:39Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > My local news is leading with it as I write this. Later correction: It was the first thing mentioned when the anchor read the headlines, but was the 2nd story covered in more depth. This got first billing, because it was local. I realize the timeline is a bit off; yesterday’s story covered her burial. [https://www.kwqc.com/content/news/Riverdale-Fire-Department-remembers-firefighter-who-passed-away-after-Cystic-Fibrosis-Battle-567539341.html](https://www.kwqc.com/content/news/Riverdale-Fire-Department-remembers-firefighter-who-passed-away-after-Cystic-Fibrosis-Battle-567539341.html) TL : DR - a local volunteer firefighter who had cystic fibrosis (!!!) died from complications of a lung transplant. I was puzzled as to how she could meet any kind of fitness standards, and mentioned this on Facebook, and got piled on by people who said they knew her and she was indeed able to do the job until she suddenly got worse and needed the transplant. I suspect it isn’t a bigger story here because no Americans were involved. Bet nobody here’s ever heard of THIS crime spree. I found out about it on a true-crime message board. > **[Dnepropetrovsk maniacs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnepropetrovsk_maniacs)** > > The Dnepropetrovsk maniacs (Ukrainian: Дніпропетровські маніяки; Russian: Днепропетровские маньяки)\[nb 1\] are Ukrainian serial killers responsible for a string of murders in Dnepropetrovsk (Dnipropetrovsk) in June and July 2007. The case gained additional notoriety because the killers made video recordings of some of the murders, with one of the videos leaking to the Internet. Two 19‑year-olds, Viktor Sayenko (Ukrainian: Віктор Саєнко; Russian: Виктор Саенко), born 1 March 1988, and Igor Suprun... ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/24 "2020-02-09T23:16:51Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > made the 2 minute hourly radio news bulletin here in New Zealand Whenever BBC America talks about the New Zealand mosque shooter, that’s exactly how he’s referred to, and his entire body is fuzzied out. I think that’s a good idea for people like this, period. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/25 "2020-02-10T00:01:07Z")
It was the top story on CNN online yesterday. I certainly thought it got adequate coverage. I saw it again this morning, but the Oscars appear to have shoved it off the site entirely. That’s disappointing. I strongly disagree with the idea of giving no coverage to mass shootings. Not covering any story in which people die or are harmed by someone else’s actions because we don’t want to encourage bad behavior would be foolish and wrong. People suffer. Laws may need changing. Our world view would become distorted. The remaining Beatles refused to use the name of Lennon’s murderer to avoid giving the killer any fame, and I’m in favor of that as a social practice, though not as a legal or journalistic one. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/26 "2020-02-10T06:59:24Z")
> [@Marcus\_Flavius](#): > > Is America exporting it’s nihilistic mass shooting culture overseas? I’m hearing increasingly more about them happening in foreign lands. Yep, sadly. Top news in Spain. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/27 "2020-02-10T07:31:29Z")
I’ve seen a lot of coverage of it, even on local news. But I’ve also noticed that in the last year or two, even domestic mass shootings have gotten less coverage than they used to. Not _none_, but they’re not the wall-to-wall days-long Event that they used to be. Which is probably a good thing overall, even if it’s for the macabre reason that they became ratings losers due to overexposure. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/28 "2020-02-10T07:37:05Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I’ve certainly wondered whether it’s best if such mass shootings weren’t publicized at all, to cut down on how many other people get the idea (or have it reinforced) to do likewise. The shooter certainly doesn’t need to be publicized, but the victims deserve respect. Most importantly, the public needs to see how the authorities respond to events like these, in order to make sure they learn from their mistakes. Mass shootings are a matter of public safety, and public safety requires public scrutiny. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/29 "2020-02-10T12:31:05Z")
When I go to [https://www.bbc.com/news/world/asia](https://www.bbc.com/news/world/asia) I only see stories about the Oscars and coronavirus, which seems a bit odd. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/30 "2020-02-10T20:29:38Z")
The N.Y. Daily News and N.Y. Post are tabloids that heavily feature local news/scandals on their front page with banner headlines and giant photos. They are not newspapers of record as far as front page coverage goes. ABC News’ website currently has Trump’s proposed budget leading coverage and “Armed groups kill 450 in Mali” well down the page. Local/national interest generally dictates coverage placement around the world. \*there’s nothing on the front page of the Bangkok Post about Trump’s budget or the stabbing of Deebo the police dog. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657/31 "2020-02-11T14:59:06Z")
The shootings were reported on 1010 WINS news radio in NYC, but got overshadowed by the ambush shooting of two NYC police officers by one idiot, as reported [here](https://1010wins.radio.com/articles/ap-news/2-nypd-officers-shot-and-injured-in-12-hours-in-the-bronx). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twenty-one-dead-in-thailand-minimal-press-coverage/847657.md?page=1)