# Twickster, I would appreciate an apology **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 10, 2012, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481 "2012-05-10T06:46:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/21 "2012-05-10T15:07:04Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > As to being held to a higher standard, not to be all SDMBey about it, but…cite? > [@What if a Mod gets banned](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-a-mod-gets-banned/620787/16): > > For lesser offenses, it would be likely that they would simply be asked to step down as a moderator long before they were candidates for banning. It would appear that it’s possible that actions that wouldn’t be cause for a ban, would be cause for removal from modding. I’m not sure if you would classify that as “a higher standard,” but it kind of seems so. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/22 "2012-05-10T15:19:28Z")
Every time someone complains about a mod, the crowd rises up to their defense. They can do no wrong. Very seldom have I seen one actually, truly apologize. Mostly the one complaining gets smacked down by the crowd. Welcome to the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/23 "2012-05-10T15:19:52Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > And yet I have never once had a problem with **twix**. Or any other Mod, for that matter. Why do you suppose that is? You don’t have a problem with moderators calling a poster a twat (language that is specifically forbidden in the Pit, even)? Or with that moderator giving themselves less than a slap on their own wrist? It’s like a child punishing themselves for drawing all over the wall in permanent marker by limiting themselves to just 3 cookies instead of the usual 4. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/24 "2012-05-10T15:40:12Z")
Actually, that’s not what I meant, but I don’t have any problem with that either. Mods are no more likely to publicly castigate themselves and admit their errors than anybody else around here. The natural human response to criticism is to deny, defend and dodge. To expect volunteers to be super-human is ridiculous. Add in the tendency for this group to pile on and **demand immediate action be taken** and you get what you get. If the parties involved discussed the issue calmly via PM, then most warnings would likely be rescinded or never issued in the first place. But that would be too adult for the bunch of message-board prima-donnas hiding behind the anonymity of screen-names that we are. Yes, I have pictures. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/25 "2012-05-10T15:50:55Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Yes, I have pictures. 😃 Kitties or ponies? Kittehs with ponies would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/26 "2012-05-10T15:58:37Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Kitties or ponies? > > Kittehs with ponies would be awesome. [Just for you.](http://www.flickr.com/photos/21220784@N06/2062215590/lightbox/) ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/27 "2012-05-10T16:03:01Z")
That is just illish. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/28 "2012-05-10T17:27:52Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > You don’t have a problem with moderators calling a poster a twat (language that is specifically forbidden in the Pit, even)?. You can call other posters twats in the Pit, unless they’ve changed the rules lately. It is not on the [forbidden words list](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858). ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/29 "2012-05-10T17:47:20Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > And yet I have never once had a problem with **twix**. Or any other Mod, for that matter. Why do you suppose that is? Doesn’t mean much of anything. The one time I got in trouble with Twix it was because I made a joke and I was warned (or got a note maybe) because she decided it wasn’t funny. She later gave me one of her classic “I had a headache” excuses when I called her out on it. Since you can get a note or warning for nothing, not getting a warning doesn’t carry much meaning. ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/30 "2012-05-10T17:56:44Z")
I just get the feeling that if I (or anyone from the other 99% of the board that isn’t a mod) said the same thing the result would have been a mod showing up and saying: > [@](#): > > **Gedd** , you know better than to call another poster a twat in an MPSIMS thread – and, yes, saying that he or she is “coming across as a twat” amounts to saying he or she is a twat. Don’t do this again. > > No warning issued I know mods have _some_ superpowers, but I don’t think “super holding of the tongue” and “failure to ever make any kind of mistake” are necessarily on the list. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/31 "2012-05-10T18:04:10Z")
> [@Sister\_Vigilante](#): > > Every time someone complains about a mod, the crowd rises up to their defense. They can do no wrong. Very seldom have I seen one actually, truly apologize. Mostly the one complaining gets smacked down by the crowd. > > Welcome to the Dope. Actually, every time someone complains about a mod, the crowd rises up to list every bad or semi-bad thing that mod and every other mod has ever done and what a rotten rotten bunch they are anyhow. I don’t really mind; I expect it, after all this time. But it’s really boring. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/32 "2012-05-10T18:41:31Z")
I would love for you to point out even 2 instances of that happening to, say, Gfactor or RickJay. The reason it happens for Twickster so often is because Twickster so often has terrible judgment as a moderator. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/33 "2012-05-10T18:56:53Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > As to being held to a higher standard, not to be all SDMBey about it, but…cite? I don’t think the mods should be above the rules, but I don’t think, nor is there precedent that I can recall, that mods posting as posters be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. Then again, they change those pages and pages of FAQs and rules and membership guidelines more often than I care to keep up, so if you can find a higher standard there, by all means do share. Not about mods, but there have been plenty of instances where a mod says “Hey so and so, you broke the rules, and normally I’d just give a Mod Note, but you’ve been around long enough that you should know better, so I’m going to make this a Warning.” I think being a Moderator should constitute being around long enough to know better. They’re the enforcer of the danged rules, they should know the danged rules. I also think it is a valid point that Twickster giving herself a Mod Note is a bit precious. It could come across as a self-slapdown in line with what another poster would get, but it can also come across as a tweak to the offended. Especially with Twickster’s record. A far more valid way to deal with that would be another moderator intervening, or an Admin if that’s what it takes. Because if a moderator is going to break the rules, even inadvertently, they should at least be overseen by someone besides themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/34 "2012-05-10T19:08:47Z")
Do we know that hasn’t happened behind the scenes? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/35 "2012-05-10T19:13:08Z")
That won’t work. The mob will not be satisfied with anything less that public stoning. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/36 "2012-05-10T19:19:34Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That won’t work. The mob will not be satisfied with anything less that public stoning. I was think more in the line of sharks and the smell of blood, but yours works too. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481/37 "2012-05-10T19:29:40Z")
Before there are requests for tumbrils and pounds of flesh, let’s close this thread. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-i-would-appreciate-an-apology/621481.md?page=1)