# Twickster: You cause more disruption **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 26, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689 "2011-09-26T19:37:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/1 "2011-09-26T19:37:10Z")
Twickster, your attempts at curtailing discussion in the [“Amazing Race Season Debut - Delays?”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=625128) are far more disruptive than the posts you’re attempting to moderate. Not only does it go against the spirit of the OP, but also spawns several follow-up posts to your poor moderation. I realize Amazing Race is something you apparently care about, but that doesn’t mean you should be able to tailor the discussion to whatever you wish to, particularly when the headline mentions “Delays” and the OP itself references the football game, and continues to reference it in several posts. I did not see any concerns from the OP expressing displeasure of said discussion, so it would behoove you to let the conversation unfold naturally, as it pertains to the OP, and not your own personal whims. ETA: Submitted too soon; subject should have read “Twickster: Your moderation is more disruptive than the posts in question” ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/2 "2011-09-26T19:39:20Z")
Oh God, another Twickster thread. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/3 "2011-09-26T19:43:09Z")
I believe the thread you’re referring to is [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=625575) one. At least one regular participant in the TAR threads is tired of seeing the NFL/CBS argument hashed over week after week after week – me. I’m not telling people to stop talking about it – I’m asking them to start a thread devoted to that argument. That way, the people who just want to talk about TAR can, and people who want to talk about the NFL/CBS relationship – who may or may not be following the TAR threads – can find that discussion. I’m sorry you don’t approve of my moderation, but I’m okay with what I’ve done. **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/4 "2011-09-26T19:49:16Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > At least one regular participant in the TAR threads is tired of seeing the NFL/CBS argument hashed over week after week after week – me.. Then why don’t you start the topic, with that as a clear rule, instead of hijacking and derailing threads where the OP explicitly mentions content you don’t care to discuss? > [@twickster](#): > > I’m not telling people to stop talking about it – I’m asking them to start a thread devoted to that argument. You’re not “asking,” you’re instructing them to stop talking about it in a thread where it was permitted by the OP. Why don’t you go start your own NFL-free Amazing Race thread? > [@twickster](#): > > That way, the people who just want to talk about TAR can, and people who want to talk about the NFL/CBS relationship – who may or may not be following the TAR threads – can find that discussion. Or you could have a single thread, much as we did, and allow people to converse on both matters. It’s not difficult to skip references to things you don’t care to read. > [@twickster](#): > > I’m sorry you don’t approve of my moderation, but I’m okay with what I’ve done. I’d hope you wouldn’t do things you don’t approve of… ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/5 "2011-09-26T20:14:52Z")
In a thread entitled “Amazing Race Season Debut - Delays?”, it’s fucking ridiculous to suggest that discussion of the reason for the delay be confined to a separate thread, **twickster**. Your statement that: > [@](#): > > This thread is about the debut of The Amazing Race, so please keep the discussion on that topic. is erroneous. It’s not about TAR’s debut, it’s about TAR’s debut _being delayed_. If you want to start a discussion about TAR’s debut, I suggest you start your own thread. I’d also suggest you create a list of television shows you enjoy and participate in threads about, send it to one of the Cafe Society moderators, and tell them you have to recuse yourself from moderating any threads on those subjects because you’re completely unable to remain impartial and rational in your decisions in those discussions. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/6 "2011-09-26T20:36:04Z")
I’ll field this one, to save us all pages of going in circles. A thread about possible delays toThe Amazing Race must only discuss the show itself, and not the prospect, cause or effect of the delays, because that’s not what twixeater wants to talk about, even though that’s what the thread is about. Any questions? Please feel free to ask. Just kidding – don’t, because I won’t answer. And just like that, we’re done. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/7 "2011-09-26T20:39:48Z")
I agree with the OP. It is a gratuitous and inappropriate use of a moderators authority. In a thread titled “Amazing Race Season Debut- Delays?” it is entirely appropriate to discuss the reason for the delay. Many people, myself included, have a DVR programmed to record CBS from 7-8PM on Sunday nights. If the show is delayed, even for five minutes, the viewer will miss the ending unless aware of the delay in advance and reset their recording time. I’ve had it happen to me once and it is extremely aggravating. A little venting about the reason for the delay is perfectly appropriate. There is no reason for a moderator to go stomping around in a perfectly mild little discussion. Back off please. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/8 "2011-09-26T20:48:05Z")
Did you even read the OP **Twix**? > [@Amazing Race Season Debut - Delays?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/amazing-race-season-debut-delays/597550/1): > > CBS does not have the football doubleheader today but if your CBS affiliate is covering the Rams or the Ravens, you might get delayed because it is the late game. You really don’t think this thread is about the relationship between CBS, football, and the Amazing Race delay? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/9 "2011-09-26T21:23:50Z")
Okay, I went back and reread the thread. I still see a difference between, on the one hand, providing a heads up that the start of the show would be delayed and grumbling about that fact, and, on the other hand, going into a detailed analysis of the relationship between the NFL and CBS, the history of that relationship, and the question of which show is being protected – _60 Minutes_ – and why. To me, the former is on-topic to a discussion of _TAR_, and the latter is a separate set of issues. Apparently many of you see no discernible distinction between those two sets of issues. Although I do, this is not a hill I feel compelled to die on, so I withdraw my instructions. I will so post in that thread. **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/10 "2011-09-26T21:30:30Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Although I do, this is not a hill I feel compelled to die on, so I withdraw my instructions. I will so post in that thread. I appreciate you rethinking the decision. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/11 "2011-09-26T22:13:35Z")
I am the one that started the thread the TAR thread, and I really did not intend the discussion to go into the NFL delaying the CBS programming. I was just trying to give people who DVR the TAR a heads up to program delays into the their recording. CBS did not have the NFL doubleheader but apparently a lot the Eastern half of the country had the 4 pm et game. The Jets were on the West Coast and St Louis and Baltimore were playing at 4 pm et too (they could have played at 1 pm) I live in the St Louis region so I had to account for the football games. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/12 "2011-09-26T22:15:14Z")
I responded in the other thread but I really intended this discussion to be about TAR and not NFL delays. I have no problem with delays, as long as I know they are coming. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/13 "2011-09-27T00:30:58Z")
I think people appreciate what you did **notfrommensa** , but with your OP really focusing on the various NFL games that CBS would be airing and how they might impact TAR, the discussion of CBS, the NFL, and delyas really seemed pretty on topic to someone looking in from the outside. I think **Twix** made the right call, considering how threads grow organically, blah, blah, blah 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/14 "2011-09-27T09:45:01Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I responded in the other thread but I really intended this discussion to be about TAR and not NFL delays. I have no problem with delays, as long as I know they are coming. Yeah, but that’s not what your OP said. You made the title and first paragraph about the delays. You have one sentence about your intended topic, and it’s rather content free, just asking for other people to respond. In other words, I don’t see any reason people wouldn’t think the thread was supposed to be about the delay. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/15 "2011-09-27T15:28:39Z")
The title of the OP and the first line of the OP discuss delays and football. I can’t imagine how that thread is not supposed to be about the delays, rather than the show. Seems to me the discussion of the new season of TAR should have been moved to a new thread and keep that thread about the delay. If any moderating was to be done. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/16 "2011-09-27T17:38:28Z")
TAR threads _always_ start by discussing delays, if there are or are likely to be delays, and then always turn into threads on the show. They’ve done this for like8 years. There’s absolutely no reason to create new rules or split threads, especially on the dubious advice of people like BigT and Irishman who (as far as I know) don’t actually participate in them. [The Amazing Race, 11/29 [spoilers, not all of them boxed] - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=541893) 2009, first post=football delays (and by Twickster! 😉 ) [The Amazing Race 10/3: "Oh, Wow! It's Like One of Those Things You See on TV!" - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390543) 2006, first bunch of posts are football delays, [Amazing Race 11.28 football delay likely - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=587215) 2010, first 8 posts or so are football delay alerts [The Amazing Race All-Stars starts tonight! - Cafe Society - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=409019) 2007, golf delays, but same principle So…if you don’t know the threads or participate in them, why are you even concerned? They’re fine the way they are without busybody-style meddling from non-participants. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/17 "2011-09-28T15:06:02Z")
You’re right, I don’t read them or participate. My point was that there was no need for **Twickster** to tell people to take the delay talk to another thread. Reading the title and OP of that post, that post was supposed to be about the delay. If you wish to also turn it into a thread on the show, I have no problem with that. Not my thread, not something I follow. But telling people to take the delay talk out of a thread with a title and OP mentioning the delay is bass-ackwards. I wasn’t trying to institute any new modding, I was simply describing my perception of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![With\_Rye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@With\_Rye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/With_Rye)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/18 "2011-09-29T04:37:02Z")
I was glad **twickster** jumped in and nipped the discussion about delays caused by football, which was getting longer and more tiresome. I just wanted to read comments specifically about the episode. It felt like good modding to me. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-you-cause-more-disruption/597689/19 "2011-09-29T21:48:11Z")
I’m siding with twickster on this one. I interpreted the meaning of the OP title as “Here’s this week’s thread about TAR: which, by the way, may be delayed (as usual) by football”. So I found it tiresome to wade through much whining about football. (and full disclosure, I like football and also live on the West Coast). So thanks, twickster, for nipping that in the bud.