# Twickster, you're full of it.

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**Created:** [November 9, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086 "2010-11-09T20:22:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/81 "2010-11-09T22:31:26Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Corporal punishment in school is legal in 21 states.
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> For the record.

How many can do it without parental consent?

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/82 "2010-11-09T22:33:09Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> How many can do it without parental consent?

The fact that you have to ask automatically makes your entire posting history on this subject a total fucking joke. If the answer is more than zero, I really hope you apologize.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/83 "2010-11-09T22:34:52Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> A-hem: that’s “Expert” as in “The Expert”
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> Why am I taking the time to snark about this? To point out how fruitless it is to argue with The Expert.
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> Until \*\*Dio \*\*indicates that he’s ready for vocal lessons, let it go.
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> ETA: His post above this one is my cite. 😉

That anything like “The Situation” ? Or is it more like a regular one.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/84 "2010-11-09T22:36:09Z")

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I have a hard time believing _in loco parentis_ extends to striking a child. In what way does that promote or safeguard the welfare of the child?

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/85 "2010-11-09T22:38:19Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> She’s 100% right and Dio’s 100% wrong.
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> The only thing that shoulda been different is it should have been a formal warning given how many mod notes Dio regularly racks up and the blatant ignoring of mod instructions in that thread.

They don’t have the balls. Dio intimidates them.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/86 "2010-11-09T22:40:54Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I don’t lust for it. 9 times out of 10 I honestly don’t expect my posts to amount to anything. My opinions may be strong, but whose aren’t around here? The literal parsing of every word I post gets annoying too. I’m hyperbolic and emphatic, and people jump on that like it mans someything. If I say “everybody likes ice cream,” I get 50 posts from people saying they HATE ice cream and how dare I say everybody likes it. I’m not looking for this shit, it just happens.

If only there was a way you could craft your posts to get the proper message across.

If only…

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/87 "2010-11-09T22:41:31Z")

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Oh, yeah, they’re scared shitless.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/88 "2010-11-09T22:55:11Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> Sorry, I dislike Dio’s posting style as much as the next person, but this is really poor logic. You did a “brief search”, couldn’t find anything, so you drew absolute conclusions based on a legal precedent in schools in states that allow corporal punishment?

To be fair, **Bricker** did provide cites for the rest which, absent any other cases, which may or may not even exist, seems to encompass the situation; **Diogenes** has not provided any cites other than his assertion that it was true 10 years ago in Minnesota. Generally on this message board it is considered the responsibility of the person making the assertion, in this case **Diogenes** , to provide citations when challenged.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/89 "2010-11-09T22:55:25Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> What’s the difference? A babysitter is a babysitter.

Quoted for awesomeness.

Teacher = day care center operator = live-in boyfriend watching one’s children. Who cares, they’re all exactly the same!

It’s that kind of careful attention to factual detail that makes it so wonderful when Diogenes posts 38 times in a thread.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/90 "2010-11-09T23:03:05Z")

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**twickster** , look at it this way, **Diogenes** is sort of like Fred Phelps. When the Phredites show up at one’s church, you know you must be doing something right if they are so mad at you. So just wave at him, smile, and go about your business.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/91 "2010-11-09T23:08:08Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> How many can do it without parental consent?

At least you’re admitting you don’t know what you are talking about. My previous cite was incorrect, by the way. Those were only the states that allowed corporal punishment in their own schools. 48 states permit it in private schools.

In answer to your question, not all states require parental permission.

Next time, support your own assertions. Especially the ones you claim as fact.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/92 "2010-11-09T23:18:38Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> How many can do it without parental consent?

I am impressed by your ability to deftly move the goalposts.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/93 "2010-11-09T23:19:47Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Oh, yeah, they’re scared shitless.

So I was full of shit, but now I’m scared shitless? 😕

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/94 "2010-11-09T23:21:52Z")

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> [@Blaster\_Master](#):
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> To be fair, **Bricker** did provide cites for the rest which, absent any other cases, which may or may not even exist, seems to encompass the situation; **Diogenes** has not provided any cites other than his assertion that it was true 10 years ago in Minnesota. Generally on this message board it is considered the responsibility of the person making the assertion, in this case **Diogenes** , to provide citations when challenged.

He has. His post is his cite. He’s taken the mantle from the long-departed **Aldebaran** and run with it like nobody ever has before.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/95 "2010-11-09T23:37:48Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> They don’t have the balls. Dio intimidates them.

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Oh, yeah, they’re scared shitless.

> [@twickster](#):
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> So I was full of shit, but now I’m scared shitless? 😕

Uhmmm, **twickster**. . . .

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/96 "2010-11-09T23:41:15Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> So I was full of shit, but now I’m scared shitless? 😕

Yeah–Dio’s internet tough-guy act scared the shit out of you. So you were full of shit, his “facts” scared you so you shit your pants and now you’re shitless. See? It all ties together.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/97 "2010-11-09T23:41:16Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> Uhmmm, **twickster**. . . .

Well, I _definitely_ don’t have balls!

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**Author:** ![Library\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@Library\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Library_Boy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/98 "2010-11-09T23:45:53Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> How many can do it without parental consent?

Most of them, by state laws.

Many schools have their own policy about parent consent, but few states that still allow CP require parental consent.  
My post is my cite. So is this. [CORPORAL PUNISHMENT: US LEGISLATION - SCHOOLS](http://www.corpun.com/usscr1.htm)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/99 "2010-11-09T23:47:05Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> So I was full of shit, but now I’m scared shitless? 😕

_Clean-up in ATMB!_

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twickster-youre-full-of-it/560086/100 "2010-11-09T23:54:42Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> What pisses me off is that I get piled on lately for any little thing I say. I have to defend every post, and then I get accused of hijacking for defending every post. Now the mods are joinong in. I didn’t say anything inappropriate in that thread. I defended the OP from a mob. Seriously, all it boils down to was that I thought it was inappropriate for people to tell her she was wrong t be mad about her boyfriend spanking her kid, or that she no legal right to deny permission for him to spank her kid.

In all fairness, and speaking as a casual observer who isn’t privy to the many back stories that may be involved… It does appear that many posters lay in wait to ambush Dio (and Bricker for that matter).

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