# Twilight Revealed (Major Spoilers for Buffy: Season 8) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 15, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143 "2010-01-15T23:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/1 "2010-01-15T23:59:52Z")
Dark Horse leaked a cover for Buffy: Season Eight #34, and [we finally find out who Twilight is](http://www.stinkyburgerproductions.com/uncategorized/geeky-reflection-on-the-new-buffy-villain/). Obviously, lots of fans are having aneurysms over it – and not the funny kind – but I’m just befuddled, and a bit let down. Twilight’s identity is the only thing about S8 I’ve really been interested in for the past two years, and this is the reveal? I’ve never been one of those fans who feel like he delights in twisting knives in wounds, and I’m no fan of the character it’s revealed to be, but I can see why a lot of the more hardcore fans would feel betrayed by this. In any case, I think this is possibly the dumbest thing he’s ever done in this mythos. So lame. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/2 "2010-01-16T00:03:08Z")
I do in fact feel betrayed by this, and I don’t even read the stupid comics. I hate Joss. He can DIAF. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/3 "2010-01-16T00:10:03Z")
Comics? What comics? \*Buffy \*was a TV show. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/4 "2010-01-16T00:24:09Z")
Season 8 is the canonical continuation as a comic, with Joss overseeing all of it, and writing a few issues himself. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/5 "2010-01-16T00:31:32Z")
Sounds like somebody’s been taking “Take a dump all over your fans” lessons from George Lucas. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/6 "2010-01-16T01:02:30Z")
Oh, I don’t know. If true, it really is so…Joss. We have miles to go before we sleep, so I’m willing to wait to see what develops. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/7 "2010-01-16T01:28:17Z")
So … I don’t follow Season 8. But I am getting a kick in learning that Buffy’s evil arch nemesis is _TWILIGHT_. How very meta! (Also, I like that it kinda vindicates Xander’s dislike for the Broody One.) ---
**Author:** ![audit1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@audit1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audit1)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/8 "2010-01-16T04:52:04Z")
But the big question is not who is Twilight, but why and how did that character become Twilight? ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/9 "2010-01-17T00:55:24Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > Season 8 is the canonical continuation as a comic, with Joss overseeing all of it, and writing a few issues himself. Replace “canonical” with “Joss approved/written fanfic”. K, thx, bye. ;):D:p Now, on to serious matters. Does Twilight sparkle in the sun? ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/10 "2010-01-17T01:31:22Z")
Joss approved/written means canonical, smilies notwithstanding. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/11 "2010-01-17T04:28:20Z")
The only way this works is if Angel, through his actions, is averting the rise of something even more horrific and destructive. If true it means that Joss has continued escalating the stakes even in the comic book spinoff ([Sorting Algorithm Of Evil](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SortingAlgorithmOfEvil)-basically, each new Big Bad has to be more threatening than the last one) just as he did thru the run of the series on TV. In any event this makes me even less likely to pick up the graphic novels when the series run finally ends. ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/12 "2010-01-17T18:31:46Z")
I gave up on Joss after I read about what he’d done to Shadowcat when he was writing X-Men. It’s like the man finds intense sexual gratification in destroying the characters and worlds he creates, but only after he’s gotten thousands of people emotionally invested in them. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/13 "2010-01-17T22:22:19Z")
> [@phouka](#): > > I gave up on Joss after I read about what he’d done to Shadowcat when he was writing X-Men. You really should read the arc he did with _Astonishing X-Men_. Marvelous story, witty dialog, and contrary to what you might have read Kitty isn’t dead. Just not reachable right now. This is Marvel. Kitty’s dead like Jean Grey is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twilight-revealed-major-spoilers-for-buffy-season-8/525143/14 "2010-01-17T23:36:07Z")
Edward!