# Twitter bans MyPillow corporate account after Mike Lindell uses it to circumvent personal Twitter ban **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 3, 2021, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095 "2021-02-03T02:51:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/41 "2021-02-04T00:02:14Z")
IMO, wearing a conspicuous cross is a lousy witness. Obviously the idea isn’t that the symbol itself can be a witness, as you can only know what it means if you’re already aware. So the idea is more that the way you act is the witness, and the symbol is there to explain why. People see your kindness and love and want that for themselves. Problem is, people are much more likely to notice when you do things that are inconsistent with your values. People aren’t going to notice all the times you were kind and helpful as much as they’ll notice that one time you were having a bad day and were a jerk. And then that gets associated with the symbol. The only reason it works at all is because we’re actually very used to people who wear the symbol just for show, and so we’re actually somewhat surprised when they turn out to be a nice person. That’s not to say I think all crosses should be covered up or anything. It’s great when it’s this inconspicuous bit of jewelry. I have more respect for, say, Justin Stoney, a voice teacher in New York (who has [a YouTube channel teaching singing](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcxo5COqhVc84JYS_bRdLyg)) who wears a cross necklace but never at any point tries to push the idea that his stuff is for Christians only. He’ll help you sing whatever you want. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/42 "2021-02-04T00:11:55Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > In the beginning of the pandemic when my local independent grocery store was allowing only 50 people inside at a time, some very old, very country guy waiting in line outside behind me was talking my ear off. He mentioned how the store was Christian owned. From the looks of him and where we live, I expected to hear praise for that. I was really surprised when he immediately volunteered that that meant they were probably big crooks. (Before I could react to that, we were allowed in the store.) To quote a classic [SeanBaby](http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/nes/basedoncrap02.htm) article (about a video game company that rebranded as a “Christian” video game company): > [@SeanBaby](#): > > …Garbage with Jesus sells better than Garbage with Tits. It’s something to keep in mind next time you suck at making something but still want people to buy it. ---
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/43 "2021-02-04T00:36:01Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > He mentioned how the store was Christian owned. From the looks of him and where we live, I expected to hear praise for that. I was really surprised when he immediately volunteered that that meant they were probably big crooks. Maybe he was a William S. Burroughs fan: > Never do business with a religious son-of-a-bitch. His word ain’t worth a shit – not with the Good Lord telling him how to fuck you on the deal. Edit: don’t endorse this advice myself to be clear, but the quote has … oomph. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/44 "2021-02-04T00:57:45Z")
He’s not the only person selling pillows like that. My CPAP pillow works the same way, but it’s really comfy. Keeps whatever shape I shove it into, doesn’t make my head sweat, and adapts easily to my being a side sleeper. From your description, it sounds like his pillow is the same idea but with cutrate filling. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/45 "2021-02-04T01:47:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > My dad not only wore a big prominent cross like that all the time, he was unable to take it off. He made the chain it hung on too short to fit over his head, and then somehow welded the chain shut while he was wearing it. > > He was also not a particularly sane person. He never heard of bolt cutters? Hell, you can get a decent set of cutting pliers for that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/46 "2021-02-04T03:08:50Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The thing I noticed about Lindell on his commercials is the rather prominent cross he wore. Nothing against Christians, but isn’t it customary to wear the cross under your clothes, close to your heart? Having it outside like he does makes me think that he wants to be seen wearing the cross, rather than for his personal, internal faith. Speaking for myself whether I wear a cross on the inside or outside of my shirt depends on the shirt. If it’s a t-shirt it’s usually on the outside. If it’s a button-up or polo, anything with a collar or buttons, anything that the chain will snag on I wear it underneath. It’s just a matter of practicality. I’m not an evangelical though, I only tell people my faith if they ask otherwise I don’t want to bother people. And my cross is just an inch tall or so, it’s enough to remind me but I’m not really trying to advertise anything. What I do is personal, it’s not like I have a handbook (aside from the Bible and it is skimpy on fashion advice) and I rarely attend any organized church activities. I just do what I do for myself. Things might be different for people who are part of a religious organization and are more active about their faith. As far as I know there’s no real custom common to all Christians about how a cross is worn. I also have a cross tattoo on my shoulder, again that’s probably not super common. 😁 However it does mean I’m technically always wearing a cross. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/47 "2021-02-04T03:25:19Z")
Lindell has gone from a **t** necklace to a **T** necklace. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/48 "2021-02-04T10:27:09Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I really don’t understand that MyPillow guy – is he in love with Trump or something? He’s destroying his own company in order to defend Trump who would throw him under a bus in a heartbeat. It’s like he’s a religious fanatic or something. Lindell has a history of drug addiction. It’s not always the case, but it’s not unusual for recovering addicts to become obsessive about something. Lindell also credits prayer with his recovering so yeah, he might have a bit of the religious fanatic about him. All of that is rampant speculation on my part, largely based on my experience with people with addiction problems. I do not personally know Lindell, these are just possible reasons which may or may not actually apply. As for “destroying his own company” - it’s not unknown for entrepreneurs to do that. They get some success, think it is entirely due to their own genius and not a dose of serendipity/luck, and think they known everything and can do no wrong. They’re the boss! They’re in charge! Makes sense if Lindell is that sort of CEO/owner that he’d idolize Trump, who is that sort of thing writ large. The problem, of course, is that no one knows everything, and no one is always right. > [@RitterSport](#): > > Yeah, I guess that’s right. Trump is such a weird example of a cult of personality, in my view. I would have expected such a person to be more coherent and to lie better, and be better looking, too. Charisma actually has little to nothing to do with physical attractiveness or logic. It’s much more about body language, tone of voice, and over all presentation. > [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > > But his commercials look like “buy my pillow because I’m a Christian”, and that rubs me the wrong way, a bit. > > I don’t disagree, and though I’m a Christian, I’m not a fan of that sort of witnessing, because, as you note, it’s also a not-too-subtle signaling to other Christians to patronize his business for that reason alone. I find the “we’re a Christian business” line - outside of a religious supply store or a gift shop at a religious shrine or something of the sort - to be pretty damn offensive. There are few quicker ways to get me to avoid your business than to make that claim. Mind you - I have zero problem working for Christians and patronizing their businesses. It’s the ones that start spouting off about how very Christian they are, and imply that being Christian somehow makes them inherently better, that I avoid patronizing. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/49 "2021-02-04T10:30:33Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > He’s destroying his own company in order to defend Trump who would throw him under a bus in a heartbeat. That’s kind of the quintessential Trump supporter. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/50 "2021-02-04T10:34:49Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > it’s also a not-too-subtle signaling to other Christians to patronize his business for that reason alone. They also seem to forget that not everyone is a Christian, and the flip side of the message is “If you aren’t Christian, stay away.” I’m glad I never bought one of those pillows. About a year ago, I was buying every device and program that was supposed to help you sleep, and I thought about trying a MyPillow. Didn’t, though, because of all the lousy online reviews. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/51 "2021-02-04T11:22:53Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > They also seem to forget that not everyone is a Christian, and the flip side of the message is “If you aren’t Christian, stay away.” Based on my personal experience with such, many of them assume they represent a larger majority (in America) than they do and that driving away the scant few heathens is an added bonus because > [@Broomstick](#): > > being Christian somehow makes them inherently better That’s not a particularly kind assessment on my part but it sadly seems to be true of at least a significant percentage of this cohort. And if they do drive too many people away, they can always whine about how persecuted they are and start a GoFundMe. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/52 "2021-02-04T11:36:07Z")
It’s exactly like a cult. CNN ran an interview with a woman who had fallen down the Q-Anon rabbit hole and she sounds exactly like a person who had escaped from a cult. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QHOK_9hWU5U/maxresdefault.jpg "Biden's inauguration led to mom escaping QAnon") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHOK_9hWU5U) ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/53 "2021-02-04T13:14:53Z")
And he’s STILL spouting this crap! > **[Watch Newsmax anchor walk off set during MyPillow CEO interview | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/02/03/newsmax-mike-lindell-2020-election-orig.cnn-business)** > > Mike Lindell, CEO of MyPillow, went on Newsmax to talk about being banned from Twitter. Instead, he repeated unsubstantiated voter fraud claims. Watch how this Newsmax anchor reacts. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/54 "2021-02-04T14:27:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If it’s a t-shirt it’s usually on the outside. If it’s a button-up or polo, anything with a collar or buttons, anything that the chain will snag on I wear it underneath. The wearing of crosses as jewelry is pretty common among Italian-American men here in Brooklyn. They’re worn over t-shirts or sleeveless Ts or tanks in the summer, and under collared or buttoned shirts. Although they’re usually crucifixes, not simple crosses. > [@Atamasama](#): > > I also have a cross tattoo on my shoulder, again that’s probably not super common. Religious tattoos are also common with the same people. Although my own informal survey shows that crown-of-thorns tattoos are at least as popular as cross tattoos (which are, again, more likely to be crucifix tattoos, which can incorporate the crown of thorns). Sacred heart tattoos are also seen pretty often. All this is specifically Catholic imagery, not much in favor with believers like Lindell. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/55 "2021-02-04T15:53:39Z")
Shit they’d be calling up the local sheriff’s office and talking about how quickly he can be 5150’d (or whatever it’s called in Minnesota). ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/56 "2021-02-04T17:53:39Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I find the “we’re a Christian business” line - outside of a religious supply store or a gift shop at a religious shrine or something of the sort - to be pretty damn offensive. There are few quicker ways to get me to avoid your business than to make that claim. Same here. I automatically assume that any money I spend there will be donated to causes that fight equal rights for gays, promote mandatory prayer in public schools and seek to criminalize abortion. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/57 "2021-02-04T19:32:44Z")
Me three. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/58 "2021-02-04T19:33:58Z")
To be clear: he could have removed it destructively using tools, which he always had close to hand. But he didn’t want to. He did it that way so that if someone asked “hey, can you please take that off”, he could say “no, actually, I can’t”. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/59 "2021-02-04T19:40:55Z")
Let’s hope he never needs an MRI. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095/60 "2021-02-04T22:08:54Z")
Hospitals usually have those little saws… You know if you smash a finger that has a wedding ring on it and the finger swells up so bad that you can’t remove the ring, they’ll cut it off. (The ring, not the finger, hopefully.) If it was urgent to do the MRI (perhaps as a result of head trauma) they’d probably do the same for him once they realized the chain can’t just be lifted up from around his head. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-bans-mypillow-corporate-account-after-mike-lindell-uses-it-to-circumvent-personal-twitter-ban/932095.md?page=4)