# Twitter finally locks Trump out

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 7, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866 "2021-01-07T00:43:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/141 "2021-01-10T01:55:44Z")

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Saw that on a group I belong to. The person is now trying desperately to show how Trump is part of a protected class. I shit you not.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/142 "2021-01-10T02:35:06Z")

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“Shitgibbon” is, as of the present time, not a protected class.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/143 "2021-01-10T02:37:55Z")

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> **[Amazon Is Booting Parler Off Of Its Web Hosting Service](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-parler-aws?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharefacebook&ref=mobile_share&fbclid=IwAR0uv065koxghJ65CnOo8LXoXzk9P-9NAG-RA9FUMTTCluOOvWe0LgnmVp0)**
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> Amazon's suspension of Parler's account means that unless it can find another host, once the ban takes effect on Sunday Parler will go offline.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/144 "2021-01-10T03:36:14Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> The POTUS hasn’t been “blocked” from anything except from abusing his official position to continually violate corporate terms of service as a private individual.

Yes, there should have been something done about that from Day One. He was allowed to get away with doing whatever he pleased in violation of TOS because of his privileged position of power and the many eyeballs he drew to the platforms. The different platforms are not really covering themselves in glory by acting now that they finally feel sure that he _will_ go.

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**Author:** ![Olfatbut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a183cd/32.png) [@Olfatbut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olfatbut)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/145 "2021-01-10T03:43:50Z")

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I love this, but we have seen the amazing ability of trumpsters to knowingly embrace double standards. The normal rules of philosophy, debate, and discourse simply do not apply.

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**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/146 "2021-01-10T04:21:43Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Seen elsewhere on the Internet:
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> “If you weren’t upset when a private business was held to be able to refuse to provide gay wedding cakes, you shouldn’t be upset if Twitter can refuse to provide services to the Trump.”

Now I’m seeing “so if private businesses can do whatever they want, then they should be able to reopen whenever they want to!”.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/147 "2021-01-10T04:37:42Z")

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> [@Win\_Place\_Show](#):
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> Now I’m seeing “so if private businesses can do whatever they want, then they should be able to reopen whenever they want to!”.

The “logic” hurts my head.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/148 "2021-01-10T04:48:27Z")

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Speaking of head-hurting logic, this maybe should go in a separate thread, but isn’t Trump’s revenge plan completely stupid? I mean, I know, I know. But it seems like his revenge plan is to make it easier for tech companies to be sued for hosting irresponsible assholes who say violent shit.

If that happens, won’t that mute his cult on every platform?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/149 "2021-01-10T05:00:03Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> [Amazon Is Suspending Parler From AWS](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-parler-aws?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharefacebook&ref=mobile_share&fbclid=IwAR0uv065koxghJ65CnOo8LXoXzk9P-9NAG-RA9FUMTTCluOOvWe0LgnmVp0)

This is a much bigger deal than being booted out of the i-store and the play store. Do you use the Discourse App, or do you just use a web browser? I use both, but I wouldn’t be much inconvenienced by being restricted to using a browser.

But if they can’t find a web host, they are actually off-line.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/150 "2021-01-10T05:18:29Z")

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Did that private business have a functional monopoly on the making of wedding cakes for the whole planet?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/151 "2021-01-10T05:30:52Z")

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Look, oligarchs are bad, whether they’re corporate or political. Our system leads to this sort of clash of titans every now and then. When one fucked-up titan finally reins in an even more fucked-up titan, we hoi polloi can rejoice without sending valentines and blowjobs to the first titan.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/152 "2021-01-10T05:31:56Z")

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No social media company has a monopoly. There are different features to each of them, but there are several ways you can share messages on a widely-used platform that are owned by different companies. Not a _ton_ of different companies, but a few at least. When Facebook buys Twitter, then we might have a problem.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/153 "2021-01-10T05:47:46Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> without sending valentines and blowjobs to the first titan.

But isn’t that the whole incentive to become a titan in the first place?

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/154 "2021-01-10T05:51:09Z")

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No, AI… it will never understand nuances.

This snake bit my husband. Because he was there.

That snake is endangered and my husband reached toward it. It bit, he died or got really sick.

I don’t want to kill that snake. I just want it imprisoned. That snake. Not all snakes.

Sorry, I am coming from not just the latest Standing Rock debacle [What Really Happened at Standing Rock | I Was There - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1yD2J8vHAk&ab_channel=VICE)

but also oh, so many “real tv” “hehehe, oh, so funny” videos and court cases. And the “it was Antifa”… interrupting the vote that Biden won? Uh, no.

(my husband wasn’t there.) (he’s white. I could have been there… not enough money to be there but I did give.)

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/155 "2021-01-10T06:01:16Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> nt; it’s also past time to set up federal regulatory standards for social media. The Republic will not survive if we don’t begin setting up some standards that require social media to take a more active role in policing themselves.

My first impulse is that social media companies would move overseas. Then that got me wondering if there was a good place for such a move. I’m not sure.

I also wonder, given the different realities we talk about all the time, if such would allow a Trumpian CEO or FCC head to just entrench themselves even further.

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**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/156 "2021-01-10T06:08:29Z")

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Moving overseas won’t shield them. For example, American companies have to abide by GDPR rules. It _might_ protect them if the source of the media is outside the US. Eg. if Twitter moves to Somalia and someone in North Korea tweets about Pres. Biden.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/157 "2021-01-10T06:19:21Z")

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Even if they move overseas, Congress can still pass all sorts of legislation to mess with their ad revenue.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/158 "2021-01-10T09:12:33Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Saw that on a group I belong to. The person is now trying desperately to show how Trump is part of a protected class. I shit you not.

We’re all part of a protected class each and every one of us. But generally speaking, so long as you’re not discriminating against someone _because_ they belong to a specific protected class it’s not illegal. Unfortunately, quite a few conservatives seem to think that being in a protected class (women and/or minorities at least) protects them from being fired or suffering the consequences of bad behavior.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/159 "2021-01-10T12:54:25Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Did that private business have a functional monopoly on the making of wedding cakes for the whole planet?

Good question. No, twitter does not have a functional monopoly on its business. Look how quickly Parler was set up. Or look at the rapid growth of tictok. I find it surprising how easily new social media can start, frankly, but that’s healthy.

And of course, with respect to the president of the US, the big social media forms have even less of a functional olligopaly than with respect to your or me. The president can hold a press conference and the press will show up and broadcast his words. Other presidents have gotten large audiences for “fireside chats”, “press releases” and similar unfiltered communications. All those options remain.

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**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twitter-finally-locks-trump-out/929866/160 "2021-01-10T13:08:05Z")

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Trump can always post on VKontakte (ВКонта́кте), the Russian equivalent of Twitter.

I’m sure Vladimir Putin will have no problem with that. 😁

And there’s also Weibo (微博) …

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