# Twixter, a question about your mod note in the joke thread

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**Created:** [July 24, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228 "2012-07-24T12:47:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/41 "2012-07-24T16:48:50Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Yeah, and we all know you miss it.

Check your message box. Response inappropriate for this thread and forum.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/42 "2012-07-24T16:55:09Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Check your message box. Response inappropriate for this thread and forum.

I really hope this is ironic humor.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/43 "2012-07-24T16:56:23Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Check your message box. Response inappropriate for this thread and forum.

Juicy.

[WHAT’S IN THE BOX?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue1-lnHVkpQ)

Share, **Guin** , share!

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/44 "2012-07-24T16:58:10Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Yeah, and we all know you miss it.

> [@spinky](#):
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> Life is hard when you’re expected to have reasonable judgment.

> [@elmwood](#):
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> Emphasis mine. If it looks like something a mod would say, and sounds like something a mod would say …

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Check your message box. Response inappropriate for this thread and forum.

> [@elmwood](#):
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> I really hope this is ironic humor.

[Moderator Note]

Again, stop the bickering with other posters. If you have an issue with them, take it to the Pit. This goes for everyone.

Colibri

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/45 "2012-07-24T17:00:45Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/46 "2012-07-24T17:02:10Z")

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My joke wasn’t funny but it was one I could think of in ten words or less. I apologize if it actually offended anyone. I’ve withheld Jew jokes in other threads (the Kosher tampon one was just begging, but I didn’t) and I understand that me being Jewish doesn’t give me free reign. I did think that joke threads had a bit more laxity. My favorite joke is the peanuts one because it’s so stupid, but it was taken.

\<shrug\>

Not sure why it’s OK to rip on black people but not Jews…especially if **Enginerd** did it twice, albeit a bit lightly.

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**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/47 "2012-07-24T17:04:32Z")

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::Taps foot, eyes BBQ Pit::

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/48 "2012-07-24T17:14:53Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> Not sure why it’s OK to rip on black people but not Jews…especially if **Enginerd** did it twice, albeit a bit lightly.

The way I understand it is:

Going by **Tubadivas** post (#9) jokes against minorities are not Ok. And by what **Colibri** said, in post 15, minority jokes are tolerated in threads specifically intended as “crude jokes” threads.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/49 "2012-07-24T17:15:02Z")

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> [@akennett](#):
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> Really, so is it any joke that references race/religion/ethnicity and the associated stereotypes that is offensive? Or is it just special protections for one religion?

I’m sorry, but I have the same question. I’ll have to search, but I believe I recall reading stereotype-referencing jokes about Hispanics and blacks on this board for which there were no admonishments meted.

I’ll be back.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/50 "2012-07-24T17:16:39Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> Not sure why it’s OK to rip on black people but not Jews…especially if **Enginerd** did it twice, albeit a bit lightly.

Not to get into parsing every joke, but I don’t see any “ripping” of black people in general in either joke.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/51 "2012-07-24T17:20:20Z")

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The difference: one involves a reference to two specific, named musicians having brown skin – objective fact. The other involves negative stereotypes about an entire group of people.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/52 "2012-07-24T17:20:35Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I’m sorry, but I have the same question. I’ll have to search, but I believe I recall reading stereotype-referencing jokes about Hispanics and blacks on this board for which there were no admonishments meted.
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> I’ll be back.

I have no doubt whatsoever that you can find some, but that doesn’t mean much with regard to the general issue. They may not have been reported; or the mod might have decided they weren’t offensive enough to remark on. Finding instances in which particular offensive jokes might not have received moderator attention in no way indicates that such jokes are generally OK.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/53 "2012-07-24T17:33:34Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> The difference: one involves a reference to two specific, named musicians having brown skin – objective fact. The other involves negative stereotypes about an entire group of people.

This.

Great call, well handled.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/54 "2012-07-24T17:33:56Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> Not sure why it’s OK to rip on black people but not Jews…especially if **Enginerd** did it twice, albeit a bit lightly.

Bullshit. Neither of my jokes played on negative stereotypes about black people. Your joke directly references a negative stereotype about Jewish people. They’re not even close to equivalent.

er, yeah. Thanks, **Fenris** and **twickster**.

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**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/55 "2012-07-24T17:36:56Z")

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So what about the Catholic nun joke?

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/56 "2012-07-24T18:52:55Z")

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> [@BottledBlondJeanie](#):
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> So what about the Catholic nun joke?

No nun attendant.

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**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/57 "2012-07-24T19:02:10Z")

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To be clear, it’s a tongue-in-cheek (ha) question as I certainly don’t think it deserved a note, too. But, it does poke fun at the basis for a large religious belief system i.e., celibate priests. I mean, if you can distinguish that as just a joke, and c’mon it’s harmless, why not the Jewish joke?

I suppose I’m being a bit of a pedantic devil’s advocate…

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/58 "2012-07-24T19:23:45Z")

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Do you mean this one?

> [@Jokes: 10 words or shorter](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-10-words-or-shorter/629165/40):
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> What meat does a priest eat during Lent? Nun.

If so, I see that as the equivalent of this (that also mentions Jews, but hasn’t drawn any complaints):

> [@Jokes: 10 words or shorter](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jokes-10-words-or-shorter/629165/45):
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> What do you 10 Jews eating steak?
> 
> Filet minyan.

Both of those jokes refer to particular facets of people’s beliefs (not eating meat during Lent; a quorum of Jews required for some observances) and rely on a bit of wordplay, but neither one makes explicit reference to a _negative_ connotation of the beliefs. There’s a huge difference between those two jokes and one that relies on a widely known, negative stereotype.

> [@BottledBlondJeanie](#):
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> I suppose I’m being a bit of a pedantic devil’s advocate…

Don’t you think that’s a little insensitive when we’re discussing religious jokes? 😉

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/59 "2012-07-24T19:36:32Z")

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> [@BottledBlondJeanie](#):
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> But, it does poke fun at the basis for a large religious belief system i.e., celibate priests. I mean, if you can distinguish that as just a joke, and c’mon it’s harmless, why not the Jewish joke?

Since when is being cheap an official part of the Jewish religious faith? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/60 "2012-07-24T19:57:15Z")

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I can’t really get fired up about this particular instance but I am uneasy about moderating the Mods opinion of good taste.

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