# Two and a 1/2 Men -Season Debut **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 19, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830 "2011-09-19T15:17:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/1 "2011-09-19T15:17:54Z")
Someone had to start a thread, might as well be me. Ashton Kutcher makes his debut tonight 9 pm et. My Dish program guide gives this description: _ **Nice to Meet You, Waldon Schmidt** _, Alan and Jake meet Walden Schmidt, a broken hearted billionaire Really curious How (if?) they are going to wrap up the plot line from last season’s last episode which was Alan in a middle of a Ponzi scheme and Charlie falling in love with Rose who was married to a mannequin. Will they ignore the plot line completely, or do something lame like say it was dream or will they actual put a button on it or will it somehow continue with the new cast member. I really haven’t seen any spoilers and if you have, please spoil it (in spoiler boxes of course). ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/2 "2011-09-19T15:46:21Z")
The’ve had at least one commercial addressing the “how are we going to handle the transition” question - Alan walks in wearing an astronaut’s spacesuit, while Jake is sitting on the couch in a spacesuit as well. Alan says something like “Boy, life sure has changed since we both became astronauts. By the way, NASA called and said they’ve managed to reanimate that fossil we dug up, and he’ll be living with us… Wait, stop, this is ridiculous. There’s got to be a better way to introduce the new guy!” ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/3 "2011-09-19T16:10:03Z")
My daughter heard this in an interview, but it can’t be right (leaving space to allow for thread subscribers where spoilers show up in e-mails): During the hiatus, Charlie and Rose get married. Rose sees Charlie flirting with another woman and pushes him in front of a train. ---
**Author:** ![tpatsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tpatsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tpatsfan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/4 "2011-09-19T16:32:46Z")
This is what I heard well nevermind I can’t figure out how to do spoilers stupid me! ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/5 "2011-09-19T16:35:25Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Someone had to start a thread, might as well be me. > > Ashton Kutcher makes his debut tonight 9 pm et. My Dish program guide gives this description: > > _ **Nice to Meet You, Waldon Schmidt** _, Alan and Jake meet Walden Schmidt, a broken hearted billionaire > > Really curious How (if?) they are going to wrap up the plot line from last season’s last episode which was Alan in a middle of a Ponzi scheme and Charlie falling in love with Rose who was married to a mannequin. They already wrapped up the Ponzi scheme - with Rose’s money Alan already paid everyone off. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/6 "2011-09-19T23:59:34Z")
Thanks for the responses. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/7 "2011-09-20T01:11:46Z")
OMG - Dharma and Greg had a cameo! That was a Chuck Lorre show too, weren’t it? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/8 "2011-09-20T01:30:31Z")
I’m rather enjoying it so far; I doubt I’ll keep watching it, but so far it’s amusing. The cameos were the best part of the episode. Also, no vanity card. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/9 "2011-09-20T01:32:03Z")
So, I ask as someone who’s never watched more than 5 minutes of the show, how did they get rid of him? ---
**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/10 "2011-09-20T01:34:33Z")
That was better than expected. Now they need to get rid of Alan. His character has gotten too pathetic and it’s not funny any more. Is that how Charlie really died, what **notfrommensa** said in the spoiler box? I missed where they explained what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/11 "2011-09-20T01:35:01Z")
As mentioned in the earlier spoiler, he “tripped” and “fell” in front of a train after his crazy stalker/girlfriend found him with another woman. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/12 "2011-09-20T01:35:53Z")
The spoiler above is basically correct. He “fell” in front of train while with Rose. I thought the old girlfriends at the funeral were great. Overall, I think they did an above average job with the transition. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/13 "2011-09-20T01:37:36Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > So, I ask as someone who’s never watched more than 5 minutes of the show, how did they get rid of him? Just what AuntiePam said. Him and Rose got married. She caught him flirting and he ‘slipped’ in front of a train. Don’t worry, he didn’t suffer, he exploded like a balloon full of meat. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/14 "2011-09-20T01:54:36Z")
It must not have been a closed set, or maybe Lorre didn’t care if the secret got out. I thought it was pretty harsh, but at least Charlie didn’t suffer. I kinda like Ashton’s character, whatever he’s supposed to be. Sorta naive, like Woody from Cheers? Not sure if I’ll keep watching though, unless they make some changes to Alan’s character. Is he going to be Ashton’s social mentor? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/15 "2011-09-20T02:00:51Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > It must not have been a closed set, or maybe Lorre didn’t care if the secret got out. I thought it was pretty harsh, but at least Charlie didn’t suffer. > > I kinda like Ashton’s character, whatever he’s supposed to be. Sorta naive, like Woody from Cheers? Not sure if I’ll keep watching though, unless they make some changes to Alan’s character. Is he going to be Ashton’s social mentor? I’d be surprised, that would totally change the dynamic of the show and basically turn it into a spinoff. I’m guessing that Ashton will snap out of his funk within the next 1-2 weeks and become a sober version of Charlie. In fact, now that I’ve said that out loud, I wonder if they’re going to try to keep the same ‘dynamic’ but clean the show up for all the people that said they didn’t watch it because of the ‘bathroom humor’. So maybe get rid of the drugs, drinking, hookers, cheating and try to keep individual girls around (for Ashton) for a bit longer then Charlie held on to them. ---
**Author:** ![Claire\_Beauchamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@Claire\_Beauchamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire_Beauchamp)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/16 "2011-09-20T02:49:48Z")
My fav part by far was the Alternate Universe Dharma and Greg. AND … the in-joke about John Stamos as cameo was pretty funny. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/17 "2011-09-20T02:56:15Z")
> [@Indyellen](#): > > I’m rather enjoying it so far; I doubt I’ll keep watching it, but so far it’s amusing. The cameos were the best part of the episode. Also, no vanity card. There was a vanity card. It was a picture of 3 cans, whatever that means. > [@Joey\_P](#): > > Just what AuntiePam said. Him and Rose got married. She caught him flirting and he ‘slipped’ in front of a train. Don’t worry, he didn’t suffer, he exploded like a balloon full of meat. Is anyone else hungry? ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/18 "2011-09-20T03:00:29Z")
As one who never cared for the show, I must say the first 15 minutes was great. And I doubly liked alternate universe Dharma and Greg. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/19 "2011-09-20T03:17:12Z")
So was John Stamos supposed to be Jesse? I thought it odd that Dharma and Greg are NOT living happily ever after. Since Charlie’s funeral was closed casket I wonder if they’ll ever resort to the “in a coma in France” part so Sheen can return if ratings dive. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/20 "2011-09-20T03:21:46Z")
Never happen. Sheen burned that bridge to the ground. They’ll cancel the shoe before he ever sets foot on the set again. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830.md?page=2)