# Two and a 1/2 Men -Season Debut

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 19, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830 "2011-09-19T15:17:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/101 "2011-09-27T22:51:31Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> The kid only lives with him 26 weeks out of the year, and even then only for a half-hour each week. He had a really bad divorce lawyer.

LOL.

But seriously - that “bad divorce lawyer” thing was ridiculous. In fact, supposedly she was a great divorce lawyer, one of the best, but because of the dalliance with Charlie and subsequent estrangement, she turned on Alan and actively cooperated with the other lawyer to make as comically horrible (for Alan) settlement as possible.

The utterly ridiculous part, of course, was Alan accepting this instead of getting another lawyer or suing the pants off the woman for malpractice. But I guess any common sense is defenestrated when comedic necessity is applied.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/102 "2011-09-27T23:35:09Z")

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How long was Jake on screen last night? 15 seconds? And did someone mentioned that he makes 300k an episode? wow.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/103 "2011-09-27T23:58:55Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Chuck Lorre’s ego killed the show. I think the man, in general, is brilliant. Nevertheless, in expelling Sheen he made a huge mistake. Of course, he won’t own up to it.

Sheen was an intolerable asshole, and insane too. Perhaps he (Chuck) though he rather watch it crash and burn than put up with it anymore. I can understand that.

I watched the first 2 episodes this year. Having a little trouble suspending my disbelief about Walton. Maybe I could buy that he was such a child if he was born into money and had eveything handed to him. But he did not get rich till after he was married so he could not possibly be _that_ much of a nincompoop.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/104 "2011-09-28T00:02:51Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Sheen was an intolerable asshole, and insane too. Perhaps he (Chuck) though he rather watch it crash and burn than put up with it anymore. I can understand that.

Most Hollywood stars are intolerable assholes, and quite a few of them are insane. Chuck’s job is to manage that for the sake of the show. He failed at his job.

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/105 "2011-09-28T00:36:53Z")

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One more episode. I’ll give it a last chance but I don’t think I even managed to raise a smile in Part 2 of the first episode. Not funny in the slightest and I don’t really see how the replacement for Charlie could possibly fill his shoes.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-1-2-men-season-debut/596830/106 "2011-09-28T01:36:51Z")

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> [@Terr](#):
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> Most Hollywood stars are intolerable assholes, and quite a few of them are insane. Chuck’s job is to manage that for the sake of the show. He failed at his job.

He kept him “sane” for nearly a decade. I’d say that’s pretty good.

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