# Two and a Half Inches of Fun: can't we just ban his troll ass and have done with it? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 10, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007 "2008-07-10T17:41:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/181 "2008-07-12T21:44:41Z")
Wow. Is anyone else subscribed to this thread and mostly hitting “page down?” ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/182 "2008-07-12T21:54:43Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] The question went to whether or not 2.5 was, in fact, a troll. [/QUOTE] I’ll tell you this much: even if I hadn’t voted, the vote would acquired over double (close to triple) the minimum required for suspension/banning and there were no dissenting votes, nor did I dissent due to the fact that I think he is more a jerk than a troll. “Frank, we think 2.5 is a troll. Should he be suspended?” “Heavens, no! He’s a jerk, not a troll.” Give me a fucking break. I’m done with you. My patience is exhausted. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/183 "2008-07-12T22:00:47Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] What difference would it make? [/QUOTE] It went to an early exchange between **Colibri** and I in this thread, in which he portrays **2.5** trollery as a settled issue in order to level an insult at me. It’s taken on way too much importance now. The circling of the mod wagons combined with weaseling has had its desired effect. This is a perfect example of the problem with this board’s moderation. Oh well… ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/184 "2008-07-12T22:02:56Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] I’ll tell you this much: even if I hadn’t voted, the vote would acquired over double (close to triple) the minimum required for suspension/banning and there were no dissenting votes, nor did I dissent due to the fact that I think he is more a jerk than a troll. “Frank, we think 2.5 is a troll. Should he be suspended?” “Heavens, no! He’s a jerk, not a troll.” Give me a fucking break. I’m done with you. My patience is exhausted. [/QUOTE] You are either one slithery, dishonest motherfucker or one serious dumb-dumb. Not to say that that “or” might be better as an “and”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/185 "2008-07-12T22:08:28Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] It’s taken on way too much importance now. [/quote] Well, to _you_, evidently. I don’t think “troll” or “jerk” are so rigidly defined that 2.5’s posting history could be fed into a Bayesian analyzer and make a flag pop up. Enough moderators believed he met the standard for one or both, and they suspended him. > [@](#): > > The circling of the mod wagons combined with weaseling has had its desired effect. You think they desired to annoy you personally? I can’t offhand see any other effect. > [@](#): > > This is a perfect example of the problem with this board’s moderation. Oh well… Well, you’re in good company, with Aeschines. He’s been kvetching about the moderation for _years_, even while he paid to renew his membership. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/186 "2008-07-12T22:13:45Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Well, to _you_, evidently. I don’t think “troll” or “jerk” are so rigidly defined that 2.5’s posting history could be fed into a Bayesian analyzer and make a flag pop up. Enough moderators believed he met the standard for one or both, and they suspended him. [/QUOTE] And now YOU miss the point. The question of trollery doesn’t go to his suspension, but to an exchange between **Colibri** and I. But if you find it too much trouble to go back and educate yourself about what you’re opining on, so be it. [QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] You think they desired to annoy you personally? I can’t offhand see any other effect. [/QUOTE] Absolutely not. Just anyone who dare question them and shines a light on their shit from the right. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/187 "2008-07-12T22:20:51Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] You think they desired to annoy you personally? I can’t offhand see any other effect. [/QUOTE] I confess! We agreed that all the other mods would say he was a troll and then I would say he was a jerk and then **magellen01** - in his brilliance - would pick up on it and then we could piss him off by circling the wagons and then we could explain it to him and then he could get even more pissed off. And we would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for that darned **Bryan Ekers**. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/188 "2008-07-12T22:28:17Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Absolutely not. Just anyone who dare question them and shines a light on their shit from the right. [/QUOTE] My left profile always photographs better. Wait! You want to shine light on my excrement? Seriously hincky, dude. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/189 "2008-07-12T22:42:43Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] But, again, what’s the big fucking deal? What does your stalwart investigation hope to prove? What effect do you expect it to have? In other words, so what? [/QUOTE] He’s trying to prove that 2.5" was a victim of the SDMB moderators’ liberal hive mind. His evidence for this hive mind is that the moderators have different opinions on why 2.5" should be banned. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/190 "2008-07-12T22:45:06Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] I confess! We agreed that all the other mods would say he was a troll and then I would say he was a jerk and then **magellen01** - in his brilliance - would pick up on it and then we could piss him off by circling the wagons and then we could explain it to him and then he could get even more pissed off. And we would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for that darned **Bryan Ekers**. ☹ [/QUOTE] Wagons? I thought you guys all drove, like, badass black SUVs or something. What a disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/191 "2008-07-12T22:48:22Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] Wagons? I thought you guys all drove, like, badass black SUVs or something. What a disappointment. [/QUOTE] Station Wagons… it must be Station Wagons, surely? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/192 "2008-07-12T22:58:18Z")
[QUOTE=El\_Kabong] Wagons? I thought you guys all drove, like, badass black SUVs or something. What a disappointment. [/QUOTE] Fararri 250 GT Berlinetta. At least, that’s what I got. What the others drive is always a blur to me. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/193 "2008-07-12T22:58:12Z")
[QUOTE=ivan astikov] Station Wagons… it must be Station Wagons, surely? 😕 [/QUOTE] You might be more familiar with the word laager. Same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/194 "2008-07-12T23:04:00Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] And now YOU miss the point. The question of trollery doesn’t go to his suspension, but to an exchange between **Colibri** and I. But if you find it too much trouble to go back and educate yourself about what you’re opining on, so be it. Absolutely not. Just anyone who dare question them and shines a light on their shit from the right. [/QUOTE] Pull your fingers out of your ears and listen carefully: nobody has told you anything incorrect. The Mods dealt with one question, which was “Should this poster be suspended for his behavior?” Everyone was asked that question, and everyone who answered it said yes. He was warned in the past for being a troll, but if Frank feels the guy was a jerk and not a troll, it has zero bearing on the issue. Ta da, dispute resolved. Oh wait, what’s this? Somebody thinks he’s Perry Mason, so we need to have a three-page argument about whether or not **Two and a Half Inches of Fun** received due process, because it’s so powerfully confusing if some Mods thought his behavior violated the rules of the board (over and over again) by being a jerk, and others thought he was violating the rule of the board over and over again by intentionally being a jerk and saying things he didn’t believe. My God, clearly, these charges are trumped up! It must be a liberal thing! They’re discriminating against the conservative positions that fat women should be taxed, and felony offenders should be killed, and it’s funny to watch people squirm by asking prurient questions about movie blowjobs and little girls. Brilliant! Any other questions? No? Good. Understanding has been reached! The walls have fallen… and even if they haven’t, I’m done. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/195 "2008-07-12T23:39:51Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] It went to an early exchange between **Colibri** and I in this thread, in which he portrays **2.5** trollery as a settled issue in order to level an insult at me. It’s taken on way too much importance now. The circling of the mod wagons combined with weaseling has had its desired effect. This is a perfect example of the problem with this board’s moderation. Oh well… [/QUOTE] It’s **Colibri** and _me_, not **I**. Sorry for the off-topic. I could cut/paste all of the early exchanges between **Colibri** and you, but that would just be tedious. I’ll be the mole and tell you what went down in the emails between mods/Admins. (I archive them all). There are 19 mods/Admins. Not all of them are around 24/7. Some even take a vacation(lucky buggers). Sometimes, when we talk about the actions of a controversial poster/member, some people participate, some don’t. In the case of **2.5** , eight of us participated in the emails. Of the eight, seven agreed he was trolling the Board. **Frank** (sorry buddy) used the word _troll_. He allowed as how **2.5** was trolling sometimes. I was the only one who didn’t use the word “troll.” And that’s only because I saw what was happening, had some real-life things going on, and allowed it to happen. I personally think he was sometimes trolling the Board. You may not. There was NEVER a hint of anything about politics, right vs. left, etc. There never is. So, when **Colibri** first said in the thread > [@](#): > > There is, however, a nearly unanimous consensus. , he was saying that there was a …watch for it…_nearly_ unanimous decision, on the part of the PTB, to ban his ass for being a troll. You, on the other hand, if I re-read the early posts correctly, were saying that there wasn’t a unanimous vote on the part of posters that he was a troll. But, since the posters on this board don’t get a vote in the mod-loop, that’s a non starter. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/196 "2008-07-13T00:19:15Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] And now YOU miss the point. The question of trollery doesn’t go to his suspension, but to an exchange between **Colibri** and I. But if you find it too much trouble to go back and educate yourself about what you’re opining on, so be it. [/quote] Well, I guess I was just under the impression that “Colibri says ‘troll’, Frank says ‘jerk’, we’re through the looking-glass!” comprised the bulk of your complaint. > [@](#): > > Absolutely not. Just anyone who dare question them and shines a light on their shit from the right. _You_ remain unsuspended. As fascist dictatorships go, this is a slow-moving one. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/197 "2008-07-13T00:29:35Z")
Its the Birkenstock jackboots, the organic hemp laces keep snapping. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/198 "2008-07-13T00:31:06Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Why would you stick your hand up the ass of a child molester and leave your badge there? Ewwww… [/QUOTE] It will be deposited via my size 14. Man, you are such a dork. How will we ever live together in peace and harmony you and I ? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/199 "2008-07-13T00:33:46Z")
[QUOTE=42fish] He’s trying to prove that 2.5" was a victim of the SDMB moderators’ liberal hive mind. His evidence for this hive mind is that the moderators have different opinions on why 2.5" should be banned. [/QUOTE] Hive mind? Your fuckin’ killin’ me. 😃 I’m picturing the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz with little jack boots on. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/200 "2008-07-13T00:43:36Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] Hive mind? Your fuckin’ killin’ me. 😃 I’m picturing the flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz with little jack boots on. 😃 [/QUOTE] The StraightDope Mod-Borgs are heading your way this very minute… I hope you have hyper-drive capabilities in your running shoes? 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007.md?page=11)