# Two and a Half Inches of Fun: can't we just ban his troll ass and have done with it? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 10, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007 "2008-07-10T17:41:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/161 "2008-07-12T04:26:53Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Cervaise: Elucidator-type sniping without **the even the** attempt at humor. Or content. [/QUOTE] Yeah, you rock on with your bad self. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/162 "2008-07-12T04:52:26Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Well, hasn’t DT picked up enough Pit threads over his membership? Warnings? I admit I don’t know, I just regard him mostly as an embarrassment to my beloved atheism. [/QUOTE] I don’t believe (though I could be totally wrong) that **Der Trihs** has ever been as much as warned. Though I’m not sure the situations are comparable; for some reason, **DT** gives off an air of utter sincerity. If **2.5 Inches** had had that, I doubt he would’ve been suspended. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/163 "2008-07-12T04:58:45Z")
[QUOTE=Leaper] Though I’m not sure the situations are comparable; for some reason, **DT** gives off an air of utter sincerity. If **2.5 Inches** had had that, I doubt he would’ve been suspended. [/QUOTE] True enough - I can believe that DT is a jerk who knows he’s a jerk and doesn’t pretend otherwise. 2.5 was trying to sound like some kind of constitutional expert and doggedly maintained the charade even after being called on it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/164 "2008-07-12T09:31:42Z")
[QUOTE=Leaper] I don’t believe (though I could be totally wrong) that **Der Trihs** has ever been as much as warned. [/QUOTE] He’s been warned before. So have I. Lots of people sometimes lose their shit in GD when they feel passionate about something or get needled - doesn’t make them trolls or even jerks, IMO. Hell, people have been outright baiting **DT** in GD threads recently, and he doesn’t rise to the trap. Makes you wonder who the real jerks are. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/165 "2008-07-12T12:36:02Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] - How many mods are there? - How many were asked, specifically, if he or she considered **2.5** to be a troll? - How many answered in the affirmative? How many, the negative? And how many didn’t answer? [/QUOTE] Frankly, there’s no reason you should be privy to this information. And, again, what do you hope to prove? That 2.5 was suspended due to political bias? How would this information help your case? Now, let’s assume - for the sake of argument - that 2.5 _was_ suspended due to the fact that we mods/admins are actually jackbooted Stalinists instead of Nazis. What is your proposed solution? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/166 "2008-07-12T15:17:51Z")
One might assume a posture of abject submission and adoration, but the Luminous Ones are unaffected by such base posturing. So far, at any rate. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/167 "2008-07-12T16:12:40Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] And maybe you should engage you brain before yapping with yours. What exactly is your point anyway? [/QUOTE] Gee, I guess because unlike your chickenshit ass I speak my mind when I have something to say instead of dancing around like a school boy. My point is he got suspended. Boo fucking Hoo. Good thing he’s got you watching over him though. Although I don’t have any children people who worry about how they’re going to get thier dick into a twelve year old just make the top 3 on my shit list. Guess it’s a lot further down yours. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/168 "2008-07-12T17:19:01Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] Gee, I guess because unlike your chickenshit ass I speak my mind when I have something to say instead of dancing around like a school boy. My point is he got suspended. Boo fucking Hoo. Good thing he’s got you watching over him though. Although I don’t have any children people who worry about how they’re going to get thier dick into a twelve year old just make the top 3 on my shit list. Guess it’s a lot further down yours. [/QUOTE] Ha! Thanks for displaying such stupidity. You think because I’m of the opinion that he shouldn’t have been suspended that I’m fine with all that he posted? Ouch, stupid like that hurts! But feel free to show my support in, or for, that particular thread. But, just for you, genius: as far as the specific thread you’re talking about, when I saw the title, I thought “Oh shit, what’s with the fucking asshole!” I took a quick look in it once and saw that some posters were actually discussing the biology and high-tailed it out of there because I still found it too weird. Still, some people think it was a legitimate discussion. And it earned him no warning. **Marley23** didn’t even mention it in his announcement of his suspension. So, see, shitface, one can be as grossed out by what you describe as you are (and I’m sure we’re not the only ones). So you’ll have to share your Outrage Medal. You can wear it today then we’ll pass it around, okay? GREAT! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/169 "2008-07-12T17:29:56Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] Frankly, there’s no reason you should be privy to this information. And, again, what do you hope to prove? That 2.5 was suspended due to political bias? How would this information help your case? Now, let’s assume - for the sake of argument - that 2.5 _was_ suspended due to the fact that we mods/admins are actually jackbooted Stalinists instead of Nazis. What is your proposed solution? [/QUOTE] Frank, Frank, Frank…and you were doing so well. I only asked for that particular info because there was a claim made by **Colibri** as to the unanimity of opinion among the mods that **2.5** was a troll. **Marley23** was nice enough to try to shed some light on the issue, but his posts kept pointing to the issued of his being suspended. Two different issues. I phrased it the question as I did to make it clear the calculation that **Colibri** would have to go through to make the statement he did. I even said I’m willing to drop this, but if **Marley23** or any other mod wants to be helpful and shed more light, they too would have to go through that calculation. And what is so private about the number of mods? Or the percent that were asked? Or the percent that opined one way or another? I could see if I were asking for names, but I wasn’t. I just wanted the same type of information regarding **2.5’s** alleged trollery as had already been shared concerning his suspension. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/170 "2008-07-12T17:37:39Z")
The board leaned a lot more less left eight years ago. Even six years ago. I blame Bush. No, really. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/171 "2008-07-12T17:54:13Z")
I thought you were done with, this, **magellan**. [QUOTE=magellan01] And it earned him no warning. **Marley23** didn’t even mention it in his announcement of his suspension. [/QUOTE] I only linked to his official warnings and his last effort. Don’t make that a judgment of anything of his other content. > [@](#): > > **Marley23** was nice enough to try to shed some light on the issue, but his posts kept pointing to the issued of his being suspended. Two different issues. No, _same_ issue. The only one who thinks there are two issues is you. The guy was repeatedly warned for trolling and we did not argue about whether or not he was a troll. If **Frank** thinks he’s just a jerk instead of a troll - and trolls are a kind of jerk anyway - it changes nothing. You’re trying to make this some kind of due process or double jeopardy or chain of evidence issue, which it’s not. We’re not the Supreme Court. I am not sharing the contents of our emails with you. Incidentally, **Two and a Half Inches of Fun** was admonished for trolling [in this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=452096), too. I’ll add that to the announcement of his suspension. he’d been on the board for about a week at that point and it was obvious what he was doing; it never changed. I forgot the guy’s cute [institutionalize the homeless](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=453798&page=1&pp=50) thread. So again: taxing fat people, locking up the homeless, juvenile efforts to get a rise out of people with posts about Vincent Gallo and prepubescent girls… and you think this guy was suspended for political reasons? Give me a break. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/172 "2008-07-12T18:14:30Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] No, _same_ issue. The only one who thinks there are two issues is you. The guy was repeatedly warned for trolling and we did not argue about whether or not he was a troll. If **Frank** thinks he’s just a jerk instead of a troll - and trolls are a kind of jerk anyway - it changes nothing. You’re trying to make this some kind of due process or double jeopardy or chain of evidence issue, which it’s not. We’re not the Supreme Court. I am not sharing the contents of our emails with you. [/QUOTE] No, two different issues.: 1) was he a troll, 2) was he warned and suspended Number two is simply a fact. Number one is debatable, as is evidenced in this very thread. One of your fellow mods, **Colibri** , made a comment that went directly to his alleged trollery, and offered as proof, the mods’ opinions as to that charge. He admitted that his claim was incorrect as Frank plainly stated that he did NOT view **2.5** as a troll. You share now that you (the mods) “did not argue” about whether he was a troll. Does that mean it was not discussed, or that there was unanimity. And if it was unanimous, where all the mods party to the discussion or was their just unanimity with those that did discuss it? And just to cut off a possible point of confusion: jerk does NOT equal troll, right. All trolls may be jerks, but not all jerks are trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/173 "2008-07-12T18:20:28Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] No, two different issues.: 1) was he a troll, 2) was he warned and suspended [/quote] Fill in the blank: He was warned and suspended for \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_. I’ve kept this up beyond the bounds of common sense and then some. If you still don’t get it, I think I’m going to have to let you keep wondering. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/174 "2008-07-12T19:20:23Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] I thought you were done with, this, **magellan**. [/QUOTE] As I said on the previous page, he always delivers the goods. 😃 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/175 "2008-07-12T19:38:54Z")
[QUOTE=E-Sabbath] The board leaned a lot more less left eight years ago. [/QUOTE] Some don’t lean even less. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/176 "2008-07-12T19:45:18Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] Ha! Thanks for displaying such stupidity. So you’ll have to share your Outrage Medal. You can wear it today then we’ll pass it around, okay? GREAT! [/QUOTE] Anything to make a weasel of your caliber happy. 🙂 And about that badge. You can pick that badge out of the ass of the next child molestor I run up on. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/177 "2008-07-12T21:06:53Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] And what is so private about the number of mods? Or the percent that were asked? [/QUOTE] I’m fairly certain that the only mod/admin that is not assigned to a forum is **Lynn**. So go look at the forums and add us up. As to the rest of it, our deliberations are not open sessions, and you don’t get transcripts. What kind of fucking dweeb are you? Never mind, I know the answer to that one. > [@](#): > > He admitted that his claim was incorrect as Frank plainly stated that he did NOT view 2.5 as a troll. As should be obvious, my view has evolved. In the pit thread on the vaginal secretion thread, I supported him. Later on, I officially warned him for trolling, based on the fact that he never or almost never agreed with anyone, instead only popping up in other’s threads to disagree. Later yet, I decided he was a jerk, based on his consistently aggravating OPs. I don’t blame anyone for being confused, let alone someone like you whose brain cell hasn’t divided yet. And lastly, and for the last time, so fucking what? I call him a tomato, others call him a potato, still others call him “Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll.” So fucking what? He earned a suspension, and he got it. What is this crusade all about? You’re bewildering everybody. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/178 "2008-07-12T21:36:43Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] I’m fairly certain that the only mod/admin that is not assigned to a forum is **Lynn**. So go look at the forums and add us up. As to the rest of it, our deliberations are not open sessions, and you don’t get transcripts. What kind of fucking dweeb are you? Never mind, I know the answer to that one. [/QUOTE] Didn’t ask for them. I just asked for backup as to a claim that was made. It turned out to be false, and **Marley23** admitted as much. I then sought to just how false it was, i.e. were you the only mod of the opinion that **2.5** was not a troll? As you’re a mod, one would think that you would have an understanding how a debate works: claim made, proof asked for, etc. And in your mind that makes ME a dweeb? :rolleyes: [QUOTE=Frank] As should be obvious, my view has evolved. In the pit thread on the vaginal secretion thread, I supported him. Later on, I officially warned him for trolling, based on the fact that he never or almost never agreed with anyone, instead only popping up in other’s threads to disagree. Later yet, I decided he was a jerk, based on his consistently aggravating OPs. I don’t blame anyone for being confused, let alone someone like you whose brain cell hasn’t divided yet. [/QUOTE] Unbelievable. In this VERY thread, post 31, you offered that in your opinion as a mod that **2.5** was NOT a troll. Now you seek to obfuscate and—shit, I can’t ell what the fuck else you’re trying to do except embarrass yourself trying to jump onto a fence and have it both ways. Have a little backbone for heaven’s sake. Have the courage of your own convictions. Sheeze. Come on, man. It’s embarrassing to watch. [QUOTE=Frank] And lastly, and for the last time, so fucking what? I call him a tomato, others call him a potato, still others call him “Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll.” So fucking what? He earned a suspension, and he got it. What is this crusade all about? You’re bewildering everybody. [/QUOTE] Only the willfully blind. The question went to whether or not 2.5 was, in fact, a troll. If you’re interested enough to post, and now put you’re credibility on the line, one would think you’d be interested enough to read the exchange between **Colibri** and I carefully enough to know what the fuck your talking about. And whether the suspension, based on the reasons given was fair is a whole different discussion. I say it wasn’t. One of the thread cited, the Kennedy death thread, was a brilliant way to make his point. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/179 "2008-07-12T21:42:26Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] Anything to make a weasel of your caliber happy. 🙂 And about that badge. You can pick that badge out of the ass of the next child molestor I run up on. [/QUOTE] Why would you stick your hand up the ass of a child molester and leave your badge there? Ewwww… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007/180 "2008-07-12T21:43:35Z")
[QUOTE=magellan01] The question went to whether or not 2.5 was, in fact, a troll. [/QUOTE] What difference would it make? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-and-a-half-inches-of-fun-cant-we-just-ban-his-troll-ass-and-have-done-with-it/456007.md?page=10)