# Two arguments against the death penalty: one effective, one ineffective

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 13, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-arguments-against-the-death-penalty-one-effective-one-ineffective/725013 "2015-07-13T03:54:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-arguments-against-the-death-penalty-one-effective-one-ineffective/725013/61 "2015-07-16T13:45:17Z")

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> [@clairobscur](#):
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> This question makes no sense to me. How avoiding the death of an innocent would justify killing another innocent?

It doesn’t. Avoiding the death of two, or ten, innocents, does, because it reduces the number of innocent deaths.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> That list is meaningless. I bet I could come up with a list of people who murdered someone less than 24 hours after getting a speeding ticket. Should we then kill them too as a way to prevent murders?

Speeding isn’t a serious enough crime to justify the DP. Murder is.

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> It doesn’t improve anyone’s safety…

Actually, it does.

> [@Humble Thinker](#):
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> Claude Jone appears to have been executed in the modern era yet later exonerated based on DNA evidence.

Your cite says -

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> Because the DNA testing doesn’t implicate another shooter, the results don’t prove Jones’ innocence.

ETA:

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> Jesse Tafero, while not exonerated, was likely innocent given that Walter Rhodes confessed to the murders.

That’s not what Rhodes said under oath.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![SeniorCitizen007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@SeniorCitizen007](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeniorCitizen007)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-arguments-against-the-death-penalty-one-effective-one-ineffective/725013/62 "2015-07-18T16:32:59Z")

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When an accused is facing the death penalty if found guilty the prosecution and those involved in providing evidence are more inclined to falsify the facts.

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