# "Two Broke Girls" sucks

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 14, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809 "2012-02-14T13:58:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/41 "2012-02-15T03:30:16Z")

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That Polish woman is the worst sitcom character in a long time. I sort of watch the show because it’s on after HIMYM (which is getting kind of sucky too).

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**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/42 "2012-02-15T04:40:53Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Don’t speak for nerds everywhere man. A lot of us think BBT is pretty funny and that it wears its appreciation for nerds on its sleeve.

Huh. Okay, I stand corrected. Not all nerds like intelligent humor.

**Inigo** , that man is not one of the show’s writers.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/43 "2012-02-15T07:41:04Z")

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Me, I can’t get enough uber-sassy Kat Dennings. Sure, some jokes are cheap (although, quite frankly, shows like Bing Bang or even HIMYM are pretty much the same in that department.) but you do get the occasional moment of Kat putting down someone or being sarcastically self-deprecating that makes it all worthwhile.

_Detective: He lived alone, been dead two weeks  
Max: Cats eat his face?  
Caroline: Max! Can you not be so dark?  
Max: Kittens eat his face?_

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/44 "2012-02-15T12:09:57Z")

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I think someone on this board described TBBT as nerd blackface, that kind of fits. TBBT and Two Broke Girls are just really typical sitcoms, they kind of feel like a throwback to the 80s when people still watched typical sitcoms and they remind me of why we got tired of them.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/45 "2012-02-15T12:32:31Z")

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For me the only good thing about the show is the blond, Beth Behrs. I am looking forward to seeing her in other roles. For some reason, I find her fascinating. According to [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3396631/), she’s pretty new on the scene. I think she shows promise.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/46 "2012-02-15T13:40:30Z")

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I watch _2 Broke Girls_, but for me it’s more about the characters than the awful, awful jokes. Though the woman Max nannies for is pretty funny in a totally unbelievable way.

But then, I liked _Free Agents_ with Kathryn Hahn and Hank Azaria, and that was canceled unceremoniously, so I accept that I’m not the most normal tv watcher.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/47 "2012-02-15T15:50:11Z")

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I think the show would be much better if Kat Whatsherface didn’t deliver every single line in the exact same monotone. It’s just grating.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/48 "2012-02-15T15:59:35Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> I can see why someone might not like Big Bang Theory–a lot of it relies on puns made on obscure science stuff. The show is by nerds, about nerds and for nerds.

I’m a working physicists. I get the jokes, they’re just not funny. (also, the show doesn’t really rely on obscure references that much. 30 Rock is probably a “smarter” show the BBT in that way, despite the former being about TV writers and the latter about physicists.)

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/49 "2012-02-15T16:44:11Z")

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> [@drm](#):
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> That said, I watch it. Kat Dennings has a great rack. I fully recognize that I’m not as evolved as perhaps I could be.

I wholeheartedly endorse this post. Problem is, she doesn’t show enough of said rack.

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/50 "2012-02-15T18:40:14Z")

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I once saw an episode of Two Broke Girls where the affiliate screwed up and the only sound was the laugh track and the musical bits between scenes. It was hilarious. Based on their body language, I could piece together the scene very easily.

Caroline: (suggests a money-making scheme in a very chipper and optimistic way)  
Max: (cuts her down with a cynical and sassy comment)  
(laugh track)  
Caroline: (slightly perturbed, continues to optimistically try to convince Max to go along with her plan)  
Oleg: (pokes his head out of the kitchen, says something disgusting)  
(laugh track)

That went on for about eight minutes before they fixed it.  
Big Bang Theory is inconsistent enough that people who don’t like it can cherry-pick plenty of lame jokes as “proof” that the show is consistently bad. People who like the show remember more than enough good bits to be willing to gloss over the sub-par bits. The people in this thread arguing over it? They’re talking past each other.

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**Author:** ![hopeful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ce7236/32.png) [@hopeful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hopeful)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2012, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/51 "2012-02-16T11:16:25Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> After watching it I think I finally understand what dumb people must feel like after they watch _Big Bang Theory_.
> 
> Sorry to bring in the negativity, but it needed to be said.

I agree it’s horrible. The guy who writes it with Whitney Cumminigs is a terrible writer. I know that he was involved with Sex in the City (not my favorite, but I can see why people liked it) but he didn’t create it. He’s responsible for all of those hideous puns, and the movies. At least the second one. I saw her be funny on a roast, but only with jokes that other writers wrote for her and not as funny as Kate Walsh, who can act.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/52 "2012-02-16T19:01:20Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> But then, I liked _Free Agents_ with Kathryn Hahn and Hank Azaria, and that was canceled unceremoniously, so I accept that I’m not the most normal tv watcher.

Me too! I thought that was the best show of the season. Oh well.

I watch 2 Broke Girls but I don’t really like it, it’s just a half hour show that with Tivo skips runs about 20 minutes and fills in the time until the weather is on, or something.

I see many references to Denning’s ‘rack’ but it seems a well hid mystery to me. I just see a somewhat overweight waitress with too much lipstick.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/53 "2012-02-16T20:49:29Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Because it’s not funny. I can see when they’re trying to be funny, they just aren’t making me laugh. Not being “nerd” enough has nothing to do with it – a single “inside” science/math/computer joke on Futurama is funnier than a season of BBT.

Bless your holy name, Jophiel, you have finally given me an answer for people who keep running up on me telling me that BBT is over my head, and so that is why I don’t find it funny. No! You can go high over my head and still keep me if you are funny/interesting. If I only stuck with shit that doesn’t sail over my head, I wouldn’t even be able to open 99 percent of the Great Debate and General Question threads that I open.

Futurerama manages to be smart and hilarious. Why is it that no one accuses those who don’t like that cartoon of being too dumb to enjoy it? Oh, yeah, it’s because Futurama is funny as hell and doesn’t need that crutch.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/54 "2012-02-17T22:58:06Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Futurerama manages to be smart and hilarious. Why is it that no one accuses those who don’t like that cartoon of being too dumb to enjoy it? Oh, yeah, it’s because Futurama is funny as hell and doesn’t need that crutch.

Huh? People sure do make that observation. In fact, the only people I know who don’t like Futurama don’t like it because they don’t get the jokes.

BBT is, on the other hand, designed to appeal to a general audience. Yes, nerds are a part of that audience, but the focus is not on making obscure jokes, but in trying to make the characters absurd versions of themselves. The references are not written to be funny–the humor is in the fact that anyone would be nerdy enough to think they are actually funny.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/55 "2012-02-18T01:47:34Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> But then, I liked _Free Agents_ with Kathryn Hahn and Hank Azaria, and that was canceled unceremoniously, so I accept that I’m not the most normal tv watcher.

> [@mundylion](#):
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> Me too! I thought that was the best show of the season. Oh well.

_I know!_ I never actually sat through an ep of _Up All Night,_ but I’d try to catch Free Agents after it.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/56 "2012-02-20T14:55:09Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Huh? People sure do make that observation. In fact, the only people I know who don’t like Futurama don’t like it because they don’t get the jokes…

Oh. Ok. In my experience, most people tend to find Futurama funny. Even the big dummies I know found it funny.

Two Broke Girls sucks for the same reason BBT sucks. That same, fomulaic sit com shit. Except without the science references.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/57 "2012-02-21T01:53:39Z")

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Tonight’s episode (2/20) is sucking donkey balls. Please, someone kill this show.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/58 "2012-02-21T01:58:40Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> Tonight’s episode (2/20) is sucking donkey balls. Please, someone kill this show.

And then the kid said “I stopped listening after freshly waxed” and I had to laugh a little.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/59 "2012-02-21T05:47:42Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> I can see why someone might not like Big Bang Theory–a lot of it relies on puns made on obscure science stuff. The show is by nerds, about nerds and for nerds.

As others have mentioned, there are more obscure science references in Futurama (and obscure references to literature, philosophy, religion, art, etc) than BBT, and Futurama isn’t even playing off “nerd culture” or whatever. Granted I haven’t watched more than a couple episodes, but what I saw wasn’t full of “obscure science stuff.” It was full of “the science stuff everyone knows.” Pi and relativity and aren’t obscure to anyone who graduated high school or has watched the Discovery channel.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-broke-girls-sucks/612809/60 "2012-02-21T18:40:58Z")

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> [@wheresmymind](#):
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> It was full of “the science stuff everyone knows.” Pi and relativity and aren’t obscure to anyone who graduated high school or has watched the Discovery channel.

Take a look at the high school requirements for math/science sometime. Not the classes that you or I took, but the requirements for graduation. They’re a lot less rigorous than you’d expect.

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