# Two dead in Las Vegas courthouse shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 4, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654 "2010-01-04T18:56:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/21 "2010-01-04T21:18:33Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > All snark aside, there are good reasons to find this incident more alarming than the other forty-some murders which probably happened today. This incident took place in a federal building with standard federal-building security measures in place - and thus points out that these measures are vulnerable to sufficiently motivated assailants. (Not news, of course, but it’s a disheartening reminder). In this case, the gunman **never got past** the security. But you can still kill people from the “street” side of the checkpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/22 "2010-01-04T21:39:25Z")
And now no one seems to give a shit about 25,000 dead children \*or \*Brittany Murphy. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/23 "2010-01-04T21:39:56Z")
I think Brittany Murphy is bad. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/24 "2010-01-04T21:42:47Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I think pedophilia is bad. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. What are your feelings on other philias? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/25 "2010-01-04T21:46:55Z")
As someone who goes into federal buildings/courthouses most every workday, I’m eagerly anticipating the “reasonable” measures to be enacted in response to this incident! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/26 "2010-01-04T21:47:25Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > As someone who goes into federal buildings/courthouses most every workday, I’m eagerly anticipating the “reasonable” measures to be enacted in response to this incident! :rolleyes: Bring lube. ---
**Author:** ![rolandgunslinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cdc98d/32.png) [@rolandgunslinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rolandgunslinger)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/27 "2010-01-04T21:48:30Z")
What about the cats HUH? Who’s thinking about the cats! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/28 "2010-01-04T21:48:32Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > In this case, the gunman **never got past** the security. But you can still kill people from the “street” side of the checkpoint. Fair enough - I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/29 "2010-01-04T22:19:13Z")
The person who was killed by the assailant was an armed security officer, the other person who was shot was an armed US Marshall. Seven Marshalls and security officers pursued the assailant and shot him. You just cannot protect against all possibilities that a determined crazy might try. There doesn’t seem to be any lapse of security or lack of armed officers present. > **[Courthouse gunman lost Social Security case, official says - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/04/las.vegas.shooting/index.html)** > > A man who lost a recent Social Security claim opened fire with a shotgun in a federal courthouse Monday, killing a court security officer and injuring a deputy U.S. marshal, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/30 "2010-01-04T22:52:10Z")
Some of us have friends in federal law enforcement, so this kind of news does give pause to wonder how close to home the tragedy may hit. Perhaps the mods might move this thread to MPSIMS and leave the Pit to complaints about software and public art. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/31 "2010-01-04T23:05:18Z")
I like that comment on the YouTube video: “Helluva morning for jury duty!” ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/32 "2010-01-05T01:15:40Z")
Moved from The BBQ Pit to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share. **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/33 "2010-01-05T02:39:25Z")
Do we have any word on a possible motive or identification? Edit: Aha, look, there’s a link right there. Had it all. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/34 "2010-01-05T03:56:28Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Bring lube. I’ll get my coat. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/35 "2010-01-05T20:21:26Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Some of us have friends in federal law enforcement, so this kind of news does give pause to wonder how close to home the tragedy may hit. … The moral of this story is never make friends with Federal officers, because you’ll be sad when the crazies kill them. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/36 "2010-01-05T20:31:52Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I think Brittany Murphy is bad. Is a dead Brittany Murphy bad? > [@](#): > > A man who lost a recent Social Security claim opened fire with a shotgun Shhhhh. Don’t tell **Quasi.** 😛 Save a seat for me on the bus to hell. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/37 "2010-01-05T22:08:42Z")
> [@rolandgunslinger](#): > > What about the cats HUH? Who’s thinking about the cats! I am. way, way, way too much… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/38 "2010-01-06T02:32:55Z")
Only two dead, in Vegas? That’s barely half a _CSI_ episode. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/39 "2010-01-06T11:30:50Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Why don’t you value human life? ☹ Supply and demand… ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654/40 "2010-01-06T12:14:56Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Total number of reported murders from the year 2008 in the US was 16,204. (Just to make things Pit-worthy again): Wow! That’s even more than the 15,000 that allegedly died from no health care! Just imagine, the chances of dying from no health care are even less than the chances of dying from being murdered. Who’da thunk it? Maybe we better start a huge, taxpayer-funded govenment takeover to ensure that nobody gets murdered, huh? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-las-vegas-courthouse-shooting/523654.md?page=3)