# Two dead in shooting at Johns Hopkins Hospital **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 16, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003 "2010-09-16T19:29:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/1 "2010-09-16T19:29:16Z")
[Story here](http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-shooting-hopkins-20100916,0,1885569.story) ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/2 "2010-09-16T19:34:07Z")
Oh jesus, a friend of mine is doing her residency there. The article implies that the physician who was shot is a male, so I know she’s fine. Still. Scary as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/3 "2010-09-16T19:59:15Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Oh jesus, a friend of mine is doing her residency there. The article implies that the physician who was shot is a male, so I know she’s fine. Still. Scary as hell. Saw an interview on the telly that said outright that the physician is male. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/4 "2010-09-16T20:15:16Z")
My HS crush lives near there! (Don’t remember if she has Hopkins ties) ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_From\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Girl\_From\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_From_Mars)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/5 "2010-09-16T21:53:00Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > Oh jesus, a friend of mine is doing her residency there. The article implies that the physician who was shot is a male, so I know she’s fine. Still. Scary as hell. The link might have updated, but they identify the doctor as Dr. David B. Cohen. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/6 "2010-09-16T21:58:54Z")
Glad the doctor who got shot is okay–if you have to be shot, it’s convenient to be shot in a hospital. That’s horrible for the mother of the man who is now dead, though. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/7 "2010-09-16T22:00:21Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > …That’s horrible for the mother of the man who is now dead, though. Especially horrible, since he shot and killed her first before killing himself. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/8 "2010-09-16T22:00:39Z")
> [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#): > > The link might have updated, but they identify the doctor as Dr. David B. Cohen. They also say he’s going to be okay. I suppose if you’re going to get shot, a hospital is one of the better places for it to happen. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/9 "2010-09-16T22:03:32Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > > > …That’s horrible for the mother of the man who is now dead, though. > > Especially horrible, since he shot and killed her first before killing himself. Apparently he was upset about the kind of care she was receiving. That’s one hell of a way to complain about it, though. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/10 "2010-09-16T22:07:37Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > > [@mozchron](#): > > > > Especially horrible, since he shot and killed her first before killing himself. > > Apparently he was upset about the kind of care she was receiving. That’s one hell of a way to complain about it, though. From what I have heard, she apparently had spine surgery and came out of it paralyzed. The doctor was going over it with her and her son, who then pulled out a gun and shot the doctor. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/11 "2010-09-16T22:13:41Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > > > …That’s horrible for the mother of the man who is now dead, though. > > Especially horrible, since he shot and killed her first before killing himself. That’s what I meant, that she’s dead. Should have phrased it better. That’s horrible for the now dead mother of the man. Who is also dead… ---
**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/12 "2010-09-17T02:41:17Z")
This bloke was so upset with his mother’s diagnosis that he shot her doctor, his mother and then himself > **[Australian News Headlines | Yahoo News Australia](https://au.news.yahoo.com/)** > > Breaking news and stories that really matter to Australians. From cost of living and politics, to weather and the environment - get all the latest updates. > [@](#): > > A man distraught and enraged at hearing his mother’s diagnosis shot her doctor on Thursday at the world-renowned Johns Hopkins Hospital before killing her and taking his own life, police said. I suppose they will be installing a hell of a lot more security after this. I am wondering if this was premeditated somewhat or not - seriously who needs to a take gun into a hospita. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/13 "2010-09-17T02:45:12Z")
Merged **madrabbitwoman** ’s thread into the one started by **Annie-Xmas**. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/14 "2010-09-17T02:56:10Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > [Story here](http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-shooting-hopkins-20100916,0,1885569.story) It’s a good thing that people are allowed to carry guns around anywhere they go, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/15 "2010-09-17T04:37:12Z")
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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/16 "2010-09-17T04:55:00Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > It’s a good thing that people are allowed to carry guns around anywhere they go, isn’t it? Johns Hopkins [forbids](http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/gsa/resources/TeacherLearner.pdf) (pdf) firearms on its premises. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/17 "2010-09-17T14:32:47Z")
How depressing. I hope the doc makes a full and speedy recovery. When I was a student there, one of my fellow med students was gunned down outside the hospital in broad daylight. Even though another student picked him up and carried him to the ER within minutes, they couldn’t save him. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/18 "2010-09-17T15:07:42Z")
**madrabbitwoman** , it’s really hard to implement tight security at a hospital, especially at a place like Johns Hopkins, what with their academic and other facilities in addition to the hospital. I work at a large medical center (clinic/hospital combo) that also has a medical school, grad school, senior care facility, not to mention all of the facility operations/HR/other things needed to run the place. We have armed security guards that patrol, as well as vehicles that circle around our campus looking for trouble outside. People have reasons to be entering and exiting the facility around the clock. Aside from trying to set up metal detectors at dozens of doors and screening every patient, family member, and maybe employee, I can’t think what else they’d do. A few years ago, someone fired a shot in the clinic directly below me, but no one was hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/19 "2010-09-17T15:49:13Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > > > [Story here](http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-shooting-hopkins-20100916,0,1885569.story) > > It’s a good thing that people are allowed to carry guns around anywhere they go, isn’t it? They’re not. Johns Hopkins specifically forbids firearms, and Baltimore does not have a policy of allowing them either. So the point you are actually making is: such tragedies happen irrespective of a policy forbidding firearms; one may not solicit support for a policy banning firearms on the basis that tragedies like this will be prevented. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003/20 "2010-09-17T15:53:57Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > A few years ago, someone fired a shot in the clinic directly below me, but no one was hurt. You know, I feel much much safer working in the center of a maximum-security prison than I ever did working at Hopkins, or any of the myriad inner-city hospitals I’ve worked in since. Of course, security is job one here. Even inmates who are pulseless and non-breathing and having CPR performed on them are strip-searched and shackled before being sent out to the hospital. Don’t want any Hannibal Lector-type scenarios, don’tcha know… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-in-shooting-at-johns-hopkins-hospital/554003.md?page=2)