# Two dead, one injured in shooting in my hometown! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 22, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041 "2019-02-22T20:02:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/1 "2019-02-22T20:02:27Z")
[Breaking News](https://www.ksnblocal4.com/content/news/One-dead-two-injured-in-Holdrege-shooting-506187561.html) Two people dead at one of my hometown’s assisted living facilities plus one more in critical condition. The suspect is in custody following a brief pursuit and a no resistance surrender in front of the Sheriff’s office. I’m just stunned. One of the victims was an acquaintance of mine and the shooter is a friend of a friend. Things like this are ‘big city’ happenings. They shouldn’t be found out here among the peaceful and friendly citizens of small town 'Merica. This is utter horseXXXX! We’re all affected by this and this is a product of all our choices. I’m a gun owner and this incident has done nothing to make me question that choice. That doesn’t mean I don’t bear the responsibility for that choice. I don’t know what the solution is to gun violence in America but I’m getting very tired of dealing with people who argue _“The Second Amendment give me an absolute right and anyone who disagrees with me is either wrong, a traitor or trying to victimize me!”_ Sorry, wrong forum. Reported for change. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/2 "2019-02-22T20:49:31Z")
Motive? ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/3 "2019-02-22T20:57:48Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Motive? No official word but lots of speculation. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/4 "2019-02-22T21:23:41Z")
> [@Alpha\_Twit](#): > > Things like this are ‘big city’ happenings. They shouldn’t be found out here among the peaceful and friendly citizens of small town 'Merica. From [Firearm mortality in California, 2000–2015: the epidemiologic importance of within-state variation](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1047279718300425), published in _Annals of Epidemiology_, Volume 28, Issue 5, May 2018: > [@](#): > > Due to a decline in firearm homicides in metropolitan areas, there was no significant difference in these rates between urban and rural counties by 2015. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/5 "2019-02-22T22:05:59Z")
> [@Alpha\_Twit](#): > > . . . I don’t know what the solution is to gun violence in America . . . The solution will only be found when people decide that so many innocent deaths is too high a price to pay for the right to have easy access to guns. It’s very simple in my opinion. Just as you wrote, too many gun owners are basically saying, “Tough. It’s my right.” But as a gun owner, you have a critical role to play in agitating for change. You can help convince your countrymen - on the edges with things like waiting times, and in the long term with by advocating either a constitutional amendment or a SCOTUS re-interpretation that binds for generations (and with your vote too). ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/6 "2019-02-22T22:23:48Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > The solution will only be found when people decide that so many innocent deaths is too high a price to pay for the right to have easy access to guns. It’s very simple in my opinion… Ahh, yet more impeccable logic from the Smartest, Hippest, which is why I know you will join me in demanding that alcohol and automobiles be immediately banned due to the little old lady down the way being run down by a drunken driver last Thursday night. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/7 "2019-02-22T22:40:47Z")
> [@Royal\_Nonesutch](#): > > Ahh, yet more impeccable logic from the Smartest, Hippest, which is why I know you will join me in demanding that alcohol and automobiles be immediately banned due to the little old lady down the way being run down by a drunken driver last Thursday night. Please. The net benefits to society are hugely more for automobiles than they are for unrestricted gun ownership. Smartest? No, just not dumb. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/8 "2019-02-23T00:04:45Z")
Also, we lefties have been advocating for mass transit, dense development near mass transit stops, and an absence of parking requirements in order to create walkable cities and towns, and reduce dependence on the automobile. And it’s been pressure from the left that’s made cars so much safer than they were decades ago. Fatalities per passenger mile are about 1/4 of what they were in the early 1970s. And over the past few decades (this one’s been across the political spectrum) we’ve made drinking and driving a LOT less acceptable. Remember a joke from the mid-1980s that went “Don’t drink and drive - you might hit a bump and spill your drink.” People thought that was funny back then. Try to get laughs with that nowadays - good luck; you’d just get dirty looks. So yeah, we want to make the sort of progress with guns that we have with alcohol and automobiles. So if your argument is “what about alcohol and automobiles,” that’s **my** argument too! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/9 "2019-02-23T00:15:33Z")
**Moderator Note** Thread relocated from IMHO to MPSIMS, as it is a thread about a current news event. ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/10 "2019-02-23T03:37:18Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > Thread relocated from IMHO to MPSIMS, as it is a thread about a current news event. Many thanks kind overseer. > [@PastTense](#): > > Motive? Still nothing official but the local rumorsmith (crafting fine skuttlebutt since 1920) reports that the shooter and his partner were in the middle of a bitter divorce and that he accused the targets of making the situation worse. At the shooter’s [arraignment](https://nebraska.tv/news/local/shooting-suspect-makes-first-court-appearance), it was reported that this fine person was a previously convicted felon who could not legally possess a weapon. ---
**Author:** ![catflea12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@catflea12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catflea12)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/11 "2019-02-23T13:08:26Z")
This happened about 56 miles from where I live, definitely all over the news here. ---
**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/12 "2019-08-08T10:45:20Z")
UPDATE: [Suspect declared incompetent to stand trial.](https://www.kearneyhub.com/news/local/accused-holdrege-shooter-manuel-gomez-ruled-incompetent-to-stand-trial/article_1c2b493a-b896-11e9-8e61-377751b0a35a.html?fbclid=IwAR1cdZXh2p4OzQ1b8-g3vk9add2sxppnVDjCyE8AWJ8IE4fEf_gDvGTjhbo) From the linked article. > [@](#): > > Manuel Gomez, 46, was found unfit to stand trial Tuesday in Phelps County District Court in the Feb. 21 shooting of Raymond Burton, 65; David Rogers, 54; and Doyle Morse, 64, at their individual residences in Holdrege. Judge Terri Harder committed Gomez to the Lincoln Regional Center for treatment. However, because of the overcrowding issues at that facility, Gomez will begin his treatment at the Phelps County Jail, where he has been held since his arrest. > > Gomez underwent a competency evaluation in May, but special prosecutor Jason Bergevin of the Nebraska Attorney General’s office and Phelps County Attorney Michael Henry asked that Gomez have a second evaluation after citing what they called “ambiguities and inconsistencies” in the initial evaluation. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-dead-one-injured-in-shooting-in-my-hometown/830041/13 "2019-08-08T11:25:15Z")
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