# Two guys from Texas plan to conquer and enslave their own sex island **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 21, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033 "2025-11-21T14:41:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/1 "2025-11-21T14:41:58Z")
> Gavin Rivers Weisenburg, 21, of Allen, and Tanner Christopher Thomas, 20, of Argyle, have been indicted by a grand jury on counts of conspiracy to murder, maim, or kidnap in a foreign country and production of child pornography. > > The charges were given for the pair’s extensive plans to travel to Gonâve Island, which is part of the Republic of Haiti, to attempt a coup d’état, the documents say. > > Weisenburg and Thomas prepared from August 2024 to July 2025 to execute their plans, in which they allegedly intended to buy a boat, sail to Gonâve Island, kill every man on the island, overtake it by force, and take the women and children as sex slaves. > > Gonâve Island has a population of about 87,000. > **[NTX men planned to murder men, enslave women on foreign island: Indictment](https://www.fox7austin.com/news/haitian-island-coup-plot-weisenburg-thomas)** > > Two North Texas men have been indicted for an alleged scheme to sail to a foreign island, murder all the men, and enslave the women and children. Always let your reach exceed your grasp, my dudes! ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/2 "2025-11-21T14:51:47Z")
Sure. But was slavery really the MAJOR reason for the plan? ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/3 "2025-11-21T14:54:07Z")
Two vs. 87,000 ?? These guys have been playing way too much Fortnite. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/4 "2025-11-21T14:55:15Z")
At least they showed some imagination and ambition, instead of just robbing a McDonalds. These dim-bulbs will probably get pardoned. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/5 "2025-11-21T14:55:54Z")
So that’s about, what, 10k men for each of them to kill? What were they gonna do, laugh them to death? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/6 "2025-11-21T14:59:28Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > Two vs. 87,000 ?? Nah, they planned to recruit some homeless guys to help them (per the article). So two guys plus a half-dozen winos. ---
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/7 "2025-11-21T15:01:35Z")
IMO this was a self-correcting problem that should have been left alone. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/8 "2025-11-21T15:04:50Z")
Probably more like 15K, but still tall odds. Then again, if you’re racist enough, you can easily believe your adversaries are subhuman and won’t be good at fighting back. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/9 "2025-11-21T15:06:16Z")
And even if they somehow succeeded and killed all the men, being stuck on an island with 40k enraged Haitian women doesn’t seem like the best workplace environment to start a commercial empire from… ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/10 "2025-11-21T15:08:48Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > stuck on an island with 40k enraged Haitian women I think you discovered the title of their reality show. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/11 "2025-11-21T15:10:57Z")
> [@Dorjan](#): > > IMO this was a self-correcting problem that should have been left alone. 🤣 you’re right! ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/12 "2025-11-21T15:19:19Z")
But now we have to clear out two cabinet positions to make room for these pedophiles. Chris Wright is surprisingly not as horrible as most of the cabinet, so he’s probably gone. I think Tulsi might have overstayed her welcome as well. Welcome to the White House, Gavin and Tanner! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/13 "2025-11-21T15:29:00Z")
It reminds one of Victoriano Álvarez and his (mis)adventures on Clipperton Island, where he apparently arranged for a boat accident that killed the other men on the island before effectively enslaving the women. It didn’t work out well for him. One of his favorite victims killed him, and the women were rescued by a US Navy ship shortly after. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/14 "2025-11-21T15:48:13Z")
Texas, hey? Gee, I’m so shocked. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/15 "2025-11-21T15:48:49Z")
USMC Sergeant [Faustin E. Wirkus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faustin_E._Wirkus) (a name like those invented by W. C. Fields to open hidden bank accounts) did manage to have himself installed as King of a Haitian island, but did so by being a good guy, instead of mass murder or by being thought a god because he displayed a Zippo lighter. And, unlike the [White Rajas of Sarawak,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rajahs) didn’t build a dynasty: he just left when his transfer papers came through. ---
**Author:** ![xtenkfarpl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c2a13f/32.png) [@xtenkfarpl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xtenkfarpl)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/16 "2025-11-21T15:49:46Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > Two vs. 87,000 ?? These guys have been playing way too much Fortnite. It’s quite straightforward. They just show that they are at a higher level in the Freemasons or whatever, and get automatic deference. As in ‘The man who would be king’. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/17 "2025-11-21T15:52:38Z")
You tryin’ to start something, bub? 🙂 Anyway, I have it on good authority that their actual plan was to film a reality TV show, “Real Housewives of Gonâve Island”. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/18 "2025-11-21T16:10:16Z")
> [@xtenkfarpl](#): > > They just show that they are at a higher level in the Freemasons or whatever, and get automatic deference. These two thought they were Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo from HBO’s Rome. Wash ashore in Greece, and immediately enslave everyone they meet, because Romans are _Just That Awesome_. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/19 "2025-11-21T16:15:04Z")
A few decades in a Texas prison is getting off pretty lightly compared to what would have happened to them if they’d actually travelled to Haiti to try and pull this off. Haiti may not have a particularly functional government right now, but I’m sure the population of Gonâve would be more than capable of making sure these two arseholes met the unpleasant end they deserve. Hell they’d have been better off trying it some peaceful stable nation. It would probably not have been the first time that week some asshole rocked up in Gonâve trying to kill and rape, and needed bits of their anatomy chopped off to persuade them them that’s a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033/20 "2025-11-21T16:18:22Z")
I’ve read the article and still want to understand how they felt this would work. Did they think the remaining 40,000+ women on the island would think it was just pure coincidence that all the local men were dead and now only two white men remained? How exactly did they plan to kill the men; use sniper-type shootings? Why not pick an island with fewer people? Did they think Haitian authorities or external powers would never send anyone to the island to check things out or intervene? I have never read of a crime that was more dumbass and had more unanswered questions. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-guys-from-texas-plan-to-conquer-and-enslave-their-own-sex-island/1025033.md?page=2)