# Two Ladies get rescued once and then die shortly later in another mishap. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 24, 2013, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437 "2013-07-24T23:56:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/41 "2013-07-26T15:52:23Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > One of them had enough time and air to place a call for help. I wonder where they were in the vehicle at that point. Was it still afloat, when they could have just popped open a window, but they assumed this was a “please come haul out our car” incident until it suddenly stopped floating? Or had they retreated to the back as it was nose down and losing air? (Either way, it’s a bad choice to place a call.) I am guessing they didn’t even try to exit the vehicle. I think their mindset was, “We are stuck in the van, and we need someone to come and get us out.” A mindset with fatal consequences, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/42 "2013-07-26T17:02:55Z")
Everybody should have a life hammer in their car. Dr Oz, and the Mythbusters have demonstrated it. The pointed tip shatters the side window glass very easily. Theres also a razor cutter for the seatbelt. > **[Amazon.com: Towallmark Seatbelt Cutter Window Breaker Emergency Escape Tool :...](https://www.amazon.com/Towallmark-Seatbelt-Cutter-Breaker-Emergency/dp/B002AMAXNA)** > > Buy Towallmark Seatbelt Cutter Window Breaker Emergency Escape Tool: Escape Tools - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/43 "2013-07-26T18:26:44Z")
There are also [keychain-sized ones](http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000IDUW5C/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1374863050&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY190) that you can affix to your keychain, hang off the dash in some fashion, etc., in case you worry that a bigger tool might be inconvenient to find on your car’s floor/in the glove compartment after your car has plunged into water. (They could be helpful if you arrive on a similar scene, though.) ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/44 "2013-07-26T22:51:10Z")
If you find yourself in the lake without any special window breaking tools, a screwdriver, knife or anything hard and pointy will usually break glass pretty easily. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/45 "2013-07-27T03:32:04Z")
Even your car keys? ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/46 "2013-07-27T13:49:15Z")
> [@chizzuk](#): > > Top Gear tried this in a swimming pool and the water shorted out the electric windows. Three words Lucas electrical system. As a book I own on auto repair asked “How can Britannia rule the waves when her cars won’t go through a puddle?” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/47 "2013-07-27T14:09:44Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > Three words > Lucas electrical system. > As a book I own on auto repair asked “How can Britannia rule the waves when her cars won’t go through a puddle?” Lucas - “The Prince of Darkness” I would guess that their car floated for quite a long time. Odd that it was found 175 feet from the ramp. I heard it was a mini-van? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/48 "2013-07-27T16:57:05Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > Three words > Lucas electrical system. > As a book I own on auto repair asked “How can Britannia rule the waves when her cars won’t go through a puddle?” Lucas once made a car vac. It was the only thing they ever made that didn’t suck. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/49 "2013-07-27T20:17:27Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I am guessing they didn’t even try to exit the vehicle. I think their mindset was, “We are stuck in the van, and we need someone to come and get us out.” A mindset with fatal consequences, unfortunately. yep! it is such a true! u cannot let teh woman gets used to uor rescsuing them from car drowning. if u do then, they will wants it all of the time! , and u will never gets a peace. same as wen u give biscuits to a mouse. always it will be, “help me son! i drove bugatti into reservior!” “oh, my helicopter crashed into water tower again!” “i fell in a puddle and brokes my nail!” NO, mom! u hasve to learn to self-reliance. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/50 "2013-07-27T20:24:24Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Lucas once made a car vac. > > It was the only thing they ever made that didn’t suck. If Lucas made rifles wars wouldn’t start either. Jaguar once tried to diversify by building color TVs. They abandoned the project when they could not get the TV to leak oil. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437/51 "2013-07-27T23:40:07Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > Even your car keys? I’m not sure they’d be pointy enough but I’d try them if that’s all I had. I’d probably hold them with one hand, put a key against the glass then hit my hand with my other hand as hard as I could. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-ladies-get-rescued-once-and-then-die-shortly-later-in-another-mishap/664437.md?page=2)