# Two prisoners escape using tactis similar to Escape from Alcatraz. I predict a movie very soon. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 7, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858 "2015-06-07T03:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/41 "2015-06-08T03:25:09Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Gov Cuomo put a $50,000 bounty for information. Its only a matter of time and these two will be hunted down. I think it’s very significant that no cars have been reported stolen or carjackings in that area. I suspect outside help engineered this prison break and left a car behind for them to use. They are probably in Canada by now. Google Map indicates its a hour and 19 minute drive to Montreal Canada. Richard Matt fled the country once before. He went to Mexico and stayed there for ten years after killing somebody here in New York. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/42 "2015-06-08T03:29:39Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > [A bizarrely racist note.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/governorandrewcuomo/18354451268/in/photostream/) Wonder if that’ll make it into the script. Is it just me or does that note look like it was professionally printed? It doesn’t look like something that they made freehand. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/43 "2015-06-08T03:33:49Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Is it just me or does that note look like it was professionally printed? It doesn’t look like something that they made freehand. One of them must have smuggled a computer in up his bum. Maybe that’ll make it into the mythos. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/44 "2015-06-08T04:12:12Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > You know, that was something I was wondering about. That had to be NOISY. How in hell did no one hear this and report it? Are there no guards on duty inside the cell blocks, or are they all silent video monitoring? No snitches in nearby cells? I mean … geez. You’d think someone would at least have noticed excessive sleepiness. Little Nemo and others that worked in prisons can comment better. I’ve read comments from celebrities that served sentences that the noise inside the cell blocks is deafening. Pack several hundred talkative and uncooperative felons into hard wall cells just in that one cell block. Add in a few mentally disturbed folks that are screeching and wailing because… _they are mentally unbalanced_. There’s no carpeting or acoustic tile to muffle the noise. It’s got to be loud. I wonder how much it quiets down at night? That’s when these men were sawing steel. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/45 "2015-06-08T13:16:58Z")
It’s only 20 miles to Canada, and you can walk right through the woods across the border. A female employee has “been removed from her post” and taken in for questioning. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/46 "2015-06-09T11:40:26Z")
More details. The two men worked in the prison tailor shop sewing Metro-North uniforms. A lady who works as an industrial training supervisor in the tailoring department is being questioned. > **[HOW THE PRISON BREAK WENT DOWN: EXCLUSIVE details on the escape route from...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2015/06/09/how-the-prison-break-went-down-exclusive-details-on-the-escape-route-from-new-yorks-clinton-correctional-facility/)** > > The great escape from the Clinton Correctional Facility was hatched in the prison tailor shop while the killers were sewing Metro-North uniforms, sources told the Daily News on Monday. Using power … > [@](#): > > Matt, 48, and Sweat, 34, were in adjoining cells. Using hacksaws, they cut the 3/8-inch-thick steel walls around air vents near the heads of their cots to form man-size openings they could slip through. They kept the vents in place to avoid detection. The paint on the walls is so irregular and chipped that it was impossible to tell they had been tampered with, the sources said. > > The vents led to a labyrinth of cobweb-covered catwalks, but before the cons ventured out, they stuffed their sweatshirts with clothes to fool the guards making bed checks every two hours. > > Then, carrying the tools in a guitar case one of the inmates had in his cell, Matt and Sweat shimmied six stories down pipes — from catwalk to catwalk — until they reached the ground floor. > > There they identified the main steampipe and followed it through the various subterranean tunnels, figuring it would lead them to the outside. > [@](#): > > The next wall they hit was the massive prison wall, and there was no going through that. > > Holes in the stones suggest they tried to drill through it, and then came up with a brilliant Plan B.Realizing the steampipes aren’t used in warm weather, they cut one opening into the 24-inch diameter steel pipe at the base of the wall — then cut another opening from inside the pipe on the other side of the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/47 "2015-06-09T11:46:55Z")
Were they using battery powered tools, or did they drag a long extension cord behind them? Neither seems very practical for the amount of cutting they had to do. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/48 "2015-06-09T11:52:43Z")
Hand hacksaws to cut through the cell wall. Which explains why the sawing wasn’t heard. They used power tools in the service tunnels. They seemed to have everything needed, extension cords, power tools, screwdrivers & wire cutters for the electrical work etc. > [@](#): > > And to power their tools, they hot-wired the electrical junction boxes and strung extension cords. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/49 "2015-06-09T11:58:29Z")
Wow, hacksaws through 3/8 inch steel plate all the way around a man-sized air vent. That must have taken forever. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/50 "2015-06-09T12:02:52Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > [A bizarrely racist note.](https://www.flickr.com/photos/governorandrewcuomo/18354451268/in/photostream/) Wonder if that’ll make it into the script. Maybe it’s a picture of their accomplice? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/51 "2015-06-09T12:22:12Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > But I’m not going to lie. There were guards who viewed an eight hour night shift as an opportunity to get seven hours of sleep. And the prisoners on their units knew that as well. Prisoners are going to know if the guard on duty doesn’t bother making his rounds. It’s a good thing this happens only at Clinton and nowhere else. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/52 "2015-06-09T16:59:57Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Maybe they’ll send postcards to their prison buddies like Cool Hand Luke. 😉 Wouldn’t that just be swell. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arrogant_B_st_rd)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/53 "2015-06-09T17:08:11Z")
I wonder why people always fear coming into contact with escaped prisoners. I think it would be kind of cool. With the right amount of money, you can probably get them to do anything you want. They are powerless in their position. Also, interviewing escaped criminals would make a great article to pitch to Vice Magazine. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/54 "2015-06-09T18:34:52Z")
> [@Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](#): > > I wonder why people always fear coming into contact with escaped prisoners. I think it would be kind of cool. With the right amount of money, you can probably get them to do anything you want. They are powerless in their position. Right up until they kill you and take your money and car, sure, they’re kinda powerless. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/55 "2015-06-09T20:19:34Z")
> [@Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](#): > > I wonder why people always fear coming into contact with escaped prisoners. I think it would be kind of cool. With the right amount of money, you can probably get them to do anything you want. They are powerless in their position. Also, interviewing escaped criminals would make a great article to pitch to Vice Magazine. This has to be a whoosh right? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/56 "2015-06-09T20:51:51Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > They already _did_ “stick it to the man.” One killed a deputy sheriff, shooting him 22 times. The other killed and dismembered a man in New York State and then stabbed another man to death during a robbery when he was hiding out in Mexico. > > But go ahead and root for them. He shot the deputy but he did’nt shot the sheriff. Anyway I’m sure they are both really innocent, like the rest of the inmates in [del]Shawshank[/del] Clinton, their lawyers fucked them. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/57 "2015-06-09T21:07:45Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Same display of ingenuity and determination to beat the system. Stick it to the Man. Hard not to root for these guys. Stick it to the man, indeed. Dude got thrown in prison for life cuz some John Q Law illegally confiscated his bullets with his body. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/58 "2015-06-09T23:56:23Z")
> [@Arrogant\_B\_st\_rd](#): > > I wonder why people always fear coming into contact with escaped prisoners. I think it would be kind of cool. With the right amount of money, you can probably get them to do anything you want. They are powerless in their position. Also, interviewing escaped criminals would make a great article to pitch to Vice Magazine. Someone facing life in prison (without parole) is the most dangerous kind of person, there is really nothing to lose, and killing you isn’t going to make a difference in their sentence. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/59 "2015-06-10T00:01:11Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > Someone facing life in prison (without parole) is the most dangerous kind of person, there is really nothing to lose, and killing you isn’t going to make a difference in their sentence. Exactly. You have seen them, and know where they are. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/60 "2015-06-10T02:18:24Z")
That piece of shit who shot up Chardon High School in 2012 escaped from prison in 2014. They closed the school had to have extra counseling for the kids that day. The mother of one of the victims was pretty upset. The shooter is an absolute psychopath and was at large in northwestern Ohio for a short while after he escaped. But hey, gotta admire sticking it to the man! Dude has to spend 23 hours a day in a tiny cell now, so at least there’s that. I’m sure ace would point this out as a happy ending. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858.md?page=4)