# Two prisoners escape using tactis similar to Escape from Alcatraz. I predict a movie very soon. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 7, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858 "2015-06-07T03:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/161 "2015-06-26T21:48:17Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Good idea, me any my virginal girlfriend will be fooling around over there, just out of shouting range. I’ll go check out the basement of that abandoned house over there! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/162 "2015-06-26T21:49:56Z")
It appears that the escapees did gain arms from a cabin. CNN is reporting that Matt took a shot at a driver who called 911. I assume he was trying to carjack the vehicle. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/163 "2015-06-26T22:19:23Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I’ll go check out the basement of that abandoned house over there! Wait until dark. There will be fewer distractions! ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/164 "2015-06-27T05:14:36Z")
One down and one to go. [http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/us/new-york-prison-break/](http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/us/new-york-prison-break/) > [@](#): > > Richard Matt, one of two escaped murderers from an upstate New York maximum-security prison, was shot and killed by officers involved in a massive three-week manhunt, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Friday. > > Officers are still pursuing fugitive David Sweat but Cuomo said there was nothing to confirm his location as of Friday night. Still, “several leads” were being pursued on his whereabouts, the governor said. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/165 "2015-06-27T19:41:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Mitch Johnson said one of his best friends checked on his hunting cabin in Malone Friday afternoon and called police after noticing the scent of grape flavored gin as soon as he stepped into his cabin and spotting the bottle that had gone untouched for years resting on a kitchen table. Grape flavored gin. I guess it’s a step up from whatever they were drinking in prison, but still. . . Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/166 "2015-06-27T20:06:23Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Grape flavored gin. I guess it’s a step up from whatever they were drinking in prison, but still. . . Ugh. Walking out of the cabin must have been very frightening. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/167 "2015-06-27T20:13:15Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Walking out of the cabin must have been very frightening. :dubious: I wonder if they were drunk when at least one of them starting firing for no apparent purpose. “Watch me put a hole in this RV!” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/168 "2015-06-27T21:19:15Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I wonder if they were drunk when at least one of them starting firing for no apparent purpose. “Watch me put a hole in this RV!” I believe as another post upthread that they wanted to use the RV, but you may very well be right. The evils of drinking! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/169 "2015-06-28T10:35:50Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > One down and one to go. Well, that one won’t be starring as himself in that up-coming movie you predicted. ---
**Author:** ![soonerblue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soonerblue/32/3302_2.png) [@soonerblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soonerblue)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/170 "2015-06-28T10:52:34Z")
Morning news reports say Matt was drunk when he was killed. Maybe he’d just had enough of running, and it being his birthday and all decided to go out roaring drunk, shoot at a passing RV, wait for the Law … then cough to draw attention to himself. Can a shotgun put a single bullet hole in the back of a recreational vehicle? Maybe Sweat had another weapon nearby, and had easily slipped away by the time they swarmed Matt … maybe they planned that little diversion. Bunch of us got drunk on gin and grape Koolaid in high school, it’ll make you do sorrowful things … ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/171 "2015-06-28T10:57:26Z")
If they do make a movie about this, it would be nice if they shared some of the profits, if there are any, with the communities that have been affected by this. They have spent millions trying to catch these dangerous guys. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/172 "2015-06-28T12:37:07Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > If they do make a movie about this, it would be nice if they shared some of the profits, if there are any, with the communities that have been affected by this. > > They have spent millions trying to catch these dangerous guys. In the movie version, the cop that brought Matt down will walk up to his corpse and say, “Have a nice day, motherfucker.” Then place that yellow note they left at their escape exit over the bullet hole in his forehead. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/173 "2015-06-28T19:14:57Z")
I wonder how many seconds between _show me your hands_ and bam,bam,bam? maybe 1 second? These tactical teams were on a razor’s edge and not taking any chances. Three in the head, just like that. Nearly all history’s notorious outlaws went down that way. Dillinger got shot by cops otside a Chicago movie theater. , Ma Barker and her son, and Bonnie & Clyde were riddled with bullets from a dozen weapons. Pretty Boy Floyd got it in the back in a farmer’s field fleeing FBI Agents. Sheriff Pat Garret killed Billy the Kid. Crime doesn’t pay. 😉 [http://news.yahoo.com/latest-guard-charged-inmates-escaped-suspended-132256924.html](http://news.yahoo.com/latest-guard-charged-inmates-escaped-suspended-132256924.html) [http://news.yahoo.com/latest-officers-man-checkpoints-hunt-escapee-043912283.html#](http://news.yahoo.com/latest-officers-man-checkpoints-hunt-escapee-043912283.html#) > [@](#): > > State police Superintendent Joseph D’Amico says agents told Matt to put up his hands. He says Matt “was shot when he didn’t comply.” > > Police say Matt had a shotgun but didn’t use it. > [@](#): > > The Latest: Escaped killer was shot 3 times in the head ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/174 "2015-06-28T19:58:39Z")
According to CNN, Sweat is wounded and in custody. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/175 "2015-06-28T20:04:12Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > According to CNN, Sweat is wounded and in custody. [NY Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/29/nyregion/david-sweat-new-york-prison-escapee-shot.html), also. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/176 "2015-06-28T20:07:44Z")
So the saga ends. Now they can begin writing the screenplay and casting the actors. I wonder if Joyce Mitchell will be charged in Matt’s death? She could have reported this escape plan to prison authorities and averted the escape. Even 20 to 30 minutes warning would have been enough time for guards to drag them out of their cells before they got away. Instead she has her husband take her to the hospital for a “panic attack”. One man dead, another wounded and easily a million bucks spent on the manhunt. All because she said nothing until after they escaped. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2015, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/177 "2015-06-28T20:39:57Z")
They did not get very far. i guess the plan fell apart when that woman backed out. I imagine that the two would have killed her and dumped the body. Then drive…a long way off. They could have drifted into a major city and hidden there…if they had some money. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/178 "2015-06-29T02:33:39Z")
There’s no place to hide in the world we live in today. Law enforcement has too many high tech tools. They were using DNA to track these two. \*These men touched this can of pepper. \*That’s as high tech as you can get. Matt got killed by a fast response tactical team. They had a helicopter on the pad waiting to take off at a moments notice. One minute Matt is at a quiet campsite having a drink. No one around for miles. Within minutes he’s got this team swarming him. Its like something from an action movie. I’m glad no innocent people got hurt. No police hurt either. It’s the best outcome considering how dangerous these men were. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2015, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/179 "2015-06-30T23:58:48Z")
The Superintendent and the Deputy Superintendent for Security have been put on leave. It’s been suggested to them that they should announce their retirements. Nine other employees have also been put on leave. Hopefully this will be more a case of shaking out some complacency rather than looking for scapegoats. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-prisoners-escape-using-tactis-similar-to-escape-from-alcatraz-i-predict-a-movie-very-soon/721858/180 "2015-07-01T00:41:45Z")
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