# Two questions about Rogue...

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**Created:** [April 30, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077 "2003-04-30T03:40:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/1 "2003-04-30T03:40:58Z")

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1. Where did she get her “permeanent” power of invulnerbility/super strength?
2. Other than that, has she ever had other powers that stayed for a good amount of time?(Say 1 year real time, something like that).

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**Author:** ![d\_redguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@d\_redguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/d_redguy)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/2 "2003-04-30T04:13:27Z")

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from the [official Marvel Bio site:](http://www.marvel.com/bios/bios.htm?id=23&family=)

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> Powers: Rogue is a mutant who can absorb others’ memories and abilities through physical contact. In battle with the original Ms. Marvel, Rogue assimilated the heroine’s powers permanently – acquiring invulnerability, super-strength and the ability to fly. Rogue’s powers mutated when she absorbed the attributes and memories of a telepathic alien. Now, her abilities are far more uncontrollable, with the talents of all those she has touched fighting to be released.

And here is a site for [Ms. Marvel](http://www.toonopedia.com/msmarvel.htm).

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
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Since that one’s more or less answered, another question about Rogue.

Wasn’t there a point in time where it was said that Gambit was immune to Rogue’s power? I seem to remember something from one of the comic’s letter pages, but if this was ever true, it seems as if it isn’t anymore. Anyone have the official word?

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**Author:** ![Grimace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@Grimace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grimace)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/4 "2003-04-30T06:38:07Z")

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I stopped collecting and reading shortly after the Age of Apocalypse storyline, And as far as I know, Gambit did have the hots for rogue, and there was something “beginning” there. I was under the impression that he wasn’t immune, but just didn’t care about what would happen, or wasn’t afraid of it.

But then again, from what i’ve heard about all the strange crap they’ve done to the X-titles since I stopped collecting, I wouldn’t put something like that past 'em

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**Author:** ![Cataclysm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Cataclysm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cataclysm)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/5 "2003-04-30T06:50:21Z")

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I’m not sure about this 'cos I don’t read the X-men comics, but I think in Gambit’s own comic series, the writers are making his powers bigger and better than ever, and I think they’ve given him the power to create a sort of force field around himself, allowing him to touch Rogue.

Don’t quote me on it tho.

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**Author:** ![Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Aslan\_of\_Narnia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aslan_of_Narnia)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/6 "2003-04-30T06:55:29Z")

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I know, you said don’t quote you… but…

If they are doing it,  
How could he even kiss her if he does have a forcefield? It’s just like before, except Gambit can no longer touch anybody without the forcefeld interferring.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/7 "2003-04-30T07:16:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Aslan2 \*  
> \*\*I know, you said don’t quote you… but…
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> If they are doing it,  
> How could he even kiss her if he does have a forcefield? It’s just like before, except Gambit can no longer touch anybody without the forcefeld interferring. \*\*

Well, I know they have done the whole “forcefield” thing before with Rouge, but that was in the AoA, and with Magneto (obviously a magnetic forcefield). She was even able to bear him a child by this method, which I would think is even more difficult than mere kissing.

[Deus ex Machina](http://newark.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Terms/deusexmachina.html). Works every time. And often, at least in X-titles.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/8 "2003-04-30T12:43:01Z")

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I never understood why Rogue never developed a latex bodysuit fetish. Seems fairly straightforward to me…

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**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/9 "2003-04-30T12:52:35Z")

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Rogue looked as if she was in her 40s during her first appearance in Avengers Annual #10.

She even was able to absorb Thor’s powers, which I doubt she’d be able to do today.

While she has absorbed a plethora of powers, she’s only kept Ms. Marvel’s powers, and for a time her psyche, permanentely.

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/10 "2003-04-30T12:56:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \*  
> \*\*She even was able to absorb Thor’s powers, which I doubt she’d be able to do today.
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Indeed. She tried to absorb Loki’s powers during the X-Men/Alpha Flight 2-part mini-series in the mid 80s and failed to do so.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/11 "2003-04-30T15:12:00Z")

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No no, the Gambit forcefield thing was different to Magneto’s. It’s in his own spinoff comic series.

I know I said don’t quote me on it, but I googled it and found this on [http://24.191.192.76:8000/gambit.html](http://24.191.192.76:8000/gambit.html)

It mentions how Gambit’s power at their full potential enable him to control all manners of kinetic energy, allowing him to fire energy blasts, defy gravity and effectively exist as energy. However, because Gambit’s powers were flaring out of control, he had Sinister perform an operation to lower them to normal levels.

This bio also says that at one stage Gambit goes back in time and had Sinister reactivate his powers.

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> He could then detonate things at a distance, without physical contact, and also charge organic matter, which he never could before. This made him very dangerous, because he could technically blow you up from the inside out just by thinking about it. In addition, his power became hyperactive, to the point where the slightest emotion can set off an explosion around him. The power could even heal mortal wounds, like the stab wound he received from Bullseye. Finally, he could generate a permanent static energy field around his body. This allowed him to touch Rogue: his static field dissipated her power.

So yeah, he gets to kiss Rogue

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-questions-about-rogue/172077/12 "2003-04-30T16:43:45Z")

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IIRC before this retooling I know nothing about, the temporary power transfers lasted in a 1:60 ratio, so that one second of contact lead to her getting the touched person’s powers for one minute.

There was also some oddness in a “Mephisto vs…” various heroes mini-series in which Mephisto was able to capture the souls of all of the X-Men by capturing Rogue’s after she had absorbed all of the X-Men’s powers. WTF?

Sounds like with this “any powers at any time” thing they’ve turned Rogue into a one-woman dues ex machina. Need a telepath? Rogue power-sucked one 13 years ago. Who needs other X-Men with Rogue around?
