# Two Royal Flushes

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 11, 1999, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695 "1999-11-11T07:59:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/62 "2011-10-01T21:56:54Z")

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Incidentally, bidding 7NT holding thirteen clubs entails the amusing possibility that you would be doubled and, thinking that you had thirteen tricks on top, redoubling only to go 13 off. If you were vulnerable, this would cost a trifling 7600 points. 😃

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/63 "2011-10-01T22:27:47Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Playing the odds always has the potential to hurt you. Obviously the short end is going to come up occasionally. It doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it.
> 
> Amusingly, the first Google hit for “you just don’t worry about quads” is my post above. There’s a plain text transcript of Doyle’s book, _Super System 2_, where the quote comes from [here](http://makeyourbestbet.com/Books/super%20system%202/files/search/searchtext.xml), though.

That is what you should do every time. It is a game of odds. You maximize your bets when the odds favor you and bail when they don’t.  
The idea of don’t worry about quads, is if you do, you will run scared and drop when you have a winning hand. Your beats with quads will be rare. You will have lots more pots you walked from that would be winners.

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**Author:** ![FrustratedIdiot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/77aa72/32.png) [@FrustratedIdiot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrustratedIdiot)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/64 "2011-10-02T00:49:53Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> I knew he had the ten of course. As I remember it:
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> I started with 99
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> Flop came with a 9, 10, 10. Betting was high with my full house against his trips.
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> Turn was a 9. I bet high, he flat called though he had very little money left.
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> Flop was the 10, and the rest of the money went in.
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> It was just a straight cooler, no real considering of possibilities for me to do.

To a non-poker player, this post is impenetrable.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/65 "2011-10-02T00:53:03Z")

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> [@FrustratedIdiot](#):
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> To a non-poker player, this post is impenetrable.

Good thing it’s in a thread about poker.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/66 "2011-10-02T02:58:59Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Good thing it’s in a thread about poker.

Not clear from the title, which may confuse people into expecting a thread about the king and queen finishing a game of craps.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/67 "2011-10-02T11:41:03Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Good thing it’s in a thread about poker.

Excellent username/post combo though.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/68 "2011-10-02T11:45:18Z")

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> [@FrustratedIdiot](#):
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> To a non-poker player, this post is impenetrable.

Let me run it through the non-poker player translator for you.

> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> OMG Poker is rigged!!! What a donk and this always happens on these crappy sites I cant believe you made that call rigged donk gay rigged!!!

There you go.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-royal-flushes/4695/69 "2011-10-03T01:13:34Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> That is what you should do every time. It is a game of odds. You maximize your bets when the odds favor you and bail when they don’t.  
> The idea of don’t worry about quads, is if you do, you will run scared and drop when you have a winning hand. Your beats with quads will be rare. You will have lots more pots you walked from that would be winners.

Uh… then why are you pointing out that “that kind of logic can hurt you”? 😕

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