# Two Star movies that you really really like

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**Created:** [January 31, 2006, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346 "2006-01-31T14:53:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/41 "2006-02-01T20:19:54Z")

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I’ll go with _A Knight’s Tale_ and the first _Tomb Raider_.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/42 "2006-02-01T21:14:36Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> **Long Kiss Goodnight**

One of my girlfriend’s favourites. She once commented on how much swearing a different movie had and I zinged her with “Wait a sec, your favourite movie is _LKG_ which has so much swearing there’s even a scene in it commenting on how much swearing there is!”  
😃

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/43 "2006-02-01T23:54:00Z")

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Several of the ones already listed are on my list, including:

**Mystery Men  
Galaxy Quest  
Super Troopers  
Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure/Bogus Journey  
Tremors**

I would also like to add:

**Titan A.E.  
PCU  
Cube**

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**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/44 "2006-02-02T00:05:33Z")

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My favorites are **Con Air** and **Deep Rising**. No matter what, if either of those movies shows up on a lazy Saturday, I watch till the end. Those are some good movies.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/45 "2006-02-02T00:29:56Z")

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Many many good pick here, so I will just add a few of my favorites:

**The Rundown**

**LifeForm** , an excellent sci-fi movie which may well be impossible to find.

any \*\*Evil Dead \*\* movie

**Ravenous**

**The Thing** (ok, I dunno if that’s really 2 star…)

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/46 "2006-02-02T00:34:10Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> Several of the ones already listed are on my list, including:  
> Galaxy Quest  
> Tremors

I don’t think either of those movies is a two-star.

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**Author:** ![burundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@burundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burundi)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/47 "2006-02-02T00:41:32Z")

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**Tank Girl**. What’s not to love? The Busby Berkeley Dance sequence in the brothel alone is enough to win me over.

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/48 "2006-02-02T00:42:54Z")

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I love so many of the movies already listed:  
_Overboard  
Pitch Black  
Chronicles of Riddick  
Zoolander  
Not Another Teen Movie  
Little Nicky_  
Legend  
The Corrupter\*  
The Cutting Edge\*  
House of Cards  
Running Man\*  
Intolerable Cruelty  
Blast From the Past  
Better Off Dead  
Galaxy Quest  
Mystery Men\*  
They Live  
Super Troopers\*  
The Blood of Heroes\*  
The Rock\*  
Baseketball  
Groundhogs Day\*  
Long Kiss Goodnight  
Romy and Michelle’s High School Reunion  
A Knight’s Tale\*  
Die Hard\*\*  
The starred ones are the ones I own. I’d also like to add **Hellboy** to the list.

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**Author:** ![Gail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Gail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gail)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/49 "2006-02-02T00:49:50Z")

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**Desperately Seeking Susan**

**Bedazzled** (with Brendan Frasier and Elizabeth Hurley)

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/50 "2006-02-02T00:51:11Z")

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I think a lot of the movies in this thread aren’t two star movies. I just glanced at the TV listings on my homepage and found movies like this were two stars:

Troop Beverly Hills (1989)  
39 FAM: Wednesday, February 1 8:00 PM  
1989, PG, \*\*, 01:45, Color, English, United States,

An idle rich woman’s (Shelley Long) husband (Craig T. Nelson) challenges her to lead their daughter’s troop of campers.

Danielle Steel’s Message From Nam (1993)  
65 LMN: Wednesday, February 1 4:15 PM  
1993, NR, \*\*, 03:12, Color, English, United States, Made for TV

Love and war surround a Berkeley graduate (Jenny Robertson) as she writes a column from Vietnam.

Dead Before Dawn (1993)  
65 LMN: Wednesday, February 1 7:55 PM  
1993, NR, \*\*, 01:36, Color, English, United States, Made for TV

The FBI asks a Texas mother (Cheryl Ladd) to fake her own death in order to trap her husband (Jameson Parker) who wants her dead.  
I don’t know where Excite’s TV listings get their ratings, but these movies sound really bad.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/51 "2006-02-02T01:15:37Z")

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[Point Break](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102685/)

IMDB has it as 6.5 out of 10 stars.

Concrete Blond music, great filming … err… umm….cinematography (IMHO).

Patrick Swayze  
Keanu Reeves (‘Johnny’ Utah) :snerk:  
Gary Busey

And umm. Lori Petty. She was really cute in the movie. I love the way her voice cracks.

The FBI goes after a bunch of bank robbing surfers. What more could you want 😃

I think it’s fun. My Wife hates it.[sub]but she bought me the dvd[/sub]

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/52 "2006-02-02T01:42:17Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I think Kaylasdad was trying to be funny, attempting to play on the title phrase. You see, Star Wars is one “star movie”, while Star trek is another “star movie”. One star movie plus one star movie makes two star movies. Something like that…

Yeesh. My jokes have a tendency to mis-fire like that.

I guess I should have said: [_A Star is Born_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029606/) and [_A Star is Born_](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075265/).

I could put some of my favorite non-blockbusters up for consideration, but I don’t have the motivation to look up whether _Leaving Normal_, and _Always_, and _Edward Scissorhands_, and _Fifty First Dates_, and _Love, Actually_, and _Sense and Sensibility_ are justly considered two-star movies by people in the know. 'Cause I enjoy them so much that I give them four stars.

So _Dark Star_ and _Stars Fell on Alabama_ is the way to go, for me.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/53 "2006-02-02T02:17:29Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I don’t know where Excite’s TV listings get their ratings, but these movies sound really bad.

Some two-stars are pretty bad. Some are pretty good. Most are just average. But some of them, for whatever reason, just reach out and grab you. Also, I’ve noticed that the ratings can change over time. At least, I’ve seen that happen on the Time Warner schedule (which they probably buy from somewhere else.)

One more that I might add is **Dave**. I’m not a big fan of Kline, but it was a pretty good movie.

Oh, and also **King Ralph**.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/54 "2006-02-02T02:18:42Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I think it’s fun. My Wife hates it.[sub]but she bought me the dvd[/sub]

Now, that’s a good wife! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2006, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/55 "2006-02-13T23:20:42Z")

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I just turned on **The Blues Brothers** on AMC and found that in the blurb it has been given two stars!

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/56 "2006-02-14T02:11:38Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I could put some of my favorite non-blockbusters up for consideration, but I don’t have the motivation to look up whether _Leaving Normal_, and _Always_, and _Edward Scissorhands_, and _Fifty First Dates_, and _Love, Actually_, and _Sense and Sensibility_ are justly considered two-star movies by people in the know. 'Cause I enjoy them so much that I give them four stars.

Never fear – no way is _Sense and Sensibility_ only a two-star movie! Won Emma Thompson the Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay, and also the Golden Globe I believe. Of course it all depends on which critic / newspaper one is using as a barometer. Movies I’m guessing as 2-star flicks that I nonetheless enjoy include:

_Zorro, the Gay Blade_ – extremely silly comedy. George Hamilton is terrific in dual roles, and Ron Liebman’s hilariously over-the-top turn as the Alcalde never fails to elicit a grin.

_You’ve Got Mail_ - Tom Hanks & Meg Ryan are so freakin’ likeable as performers. Also, it does a great job of showing the charm of small bookstores and the people who love 'em. I dig the soundtrack, too. (Here’s a heresy: I like it much better than the classic movie on which it’s based, _Shop Around the Corner_.)

_About Last Night_ - Trashy late 1980s “romance” featuring two immature, poorly matched twentysomethings (Demi Moore & Rob Lowe). Based on the play _Sexual Perversity in Chicago_. by David Mamet. I have no idea why this movie sucks me in – maybe it’s 'cause Demi Moore has such an awesome wardrobe in it, or maybe 'cause it’s just SO 1980s.

_The In-Laws_ - The original version, with Peter Falk and Alan Arkin. Another silly farce, but Falk and Arkin are brilliant foils as (respectively) a man who’s either a CIA agent working undercover or an \*ex-\*CIA agent fired for being a paranoid nutcase, and the overcautious dentist who gets caught up in Falk’s bizarre scheme to bring down a South American dictator (Richard Libertini).

_The Negotiator_ - Sam Jackson plays Sam Jackson, I mean Danny Roman, a hostage negotiator who himself takes hostages when he’s framed for stealing from the police pension fund. Or something. I never fully understood the scheme as it’s unravelled. Anyway, it’s a fairly predictable yet quirky action/thriller significantly improved by Kevin Spacey as the smart, intense, unpredictable colleague who’s the only guy Jackson’s willing to negotiate with. Filled with terrific character actors in smallish roles – J.T. Walsh, John Spencer, Ron Rifkin, David Morse, Paul Giamatti, Regina Taylor, and Paul Guilfoyle.

Gotta support the love for _Galaxy Quest_ too.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/57 "2006-02-14T04:55:55Z")

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Adventures in Babysitting.

Better Off Dead, and it’s sibling film: One Crazy Summer. Very campy, but fun.

I’ve got Dave on LD, thank you.

The Rocketeer. Well, first off how can one object to another chance to drool over Jennifer Connelly? But while the history, and the attitude towards the Mob annoy the Hell out of me, it’s still a fun movie. (Another I’ve got on LD)

The Dark Crystal. Really, it’s very cheesy, but it’s got some fun parts, too. Besides, even when he didn’t quite hit his target, Jim Henson is still a better director than many still killing celluloid.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/58 "2006-02-14T13:43:49Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> _You’ve Got Mail_ - Tom Hanks & Meg Ryan are so freakin’ likeable as performers. Also, it does a great job of showing the charm of small bookstores and the people who love 'em. I dig the soundtrack, too. (Here’s a heresy: I like it much better than the classic movie on which it’s based, _Shop Around the Corner_.)

I really dislike “Shop Around the Corner.” Margaret Sullavan is so freaking shrill. She’s horrible.

There. I’ll burn at the stake, too.

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/59 "2006-02-14T14:38:36Z")

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Re. _Water_, listed by **silenus** – I actually rented this one once! Essential viewing for [George Harrison](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0365600/) completists, as he performed in it with Ringo Starr and Eric Clapton and was the film’s exec. producer, via his boutique production company, Handmade Films, which would make _Withnail & I_ the following year. I haven’t seen all of George’s movies, but he had a quirky sensibility and a sharp ear for well-written satires and farces.

Come to think about it, I checked out _Water_ years before discovering _Withnail & I_, and the former experience didn’t deter me from checking out the latter, so I must be a real oddball. 🙂  
As for my picks, according to my local paper’s TV schedule, \*The Jerk \* was a two-star movie. Yes, _The Jerk_. One of the gonzo-est, funniest movies of its era, and probably the best thing Steve Martin’s ever done, it’s left its mark on me. (“Oh, so it’s a profit deal!” is one of my catch-phrases.)

_Red Dawn_ was pilloried by critics for its absurd and paranoid right-wing premise, but it rather endearingly takes its WTF?!? story seriously, with the ensuing plot mechanics, melodramas, and body count unfolding logically and grimly from that point onwards. Some otherwise very socially-lefty friends of mine love it, warts and all.

_While You Were Sleeping_ is a rom-com with a two-star rap, earned in all likelihood for its surreal socio-economic landscape, with Sandra Bullock’s Chicago MTA clerk in the ultimate brain-dead job and a suspiciously nice apartment in a decent neighborhood. (Then again, her character was an orphan, so maybe she inheirited some money.) Her initial romantic pairing is a meet-cute farce combining elements of heroism and the red-herring sap’s conveniently being tucked away in a coma, during which she engages in classic screwball fashion with the sap’s totally endearing and deserving brother. Their courtship remains constrained and chaste until her farcically aborted nuptials, during which All Is Revealed, paving the way for her legitimate wedding to the Decent Brother. Even better than the plot turns is the on-screen chemistry between Bullock and Bill Pullman; this is the rare rom-com with realistic, likeable characters sharing a believable attraction. Even the secondary characters, all quirkily likeable, burnish the holiday glow. Shakespeare would’ve recognized the plot mechanics, if not the El – or for that matter, Christmas as celebrated in America’s suburbia.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-star-movies-that-you-really-really-like/342346/60 "2006-02-14T15:35:07Z")

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> [@The Scrivener](#):
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> _While You Were Sleeping_ is a rom-com with a two-star rap, earned in all likelihood for its surreal socio-economic landscape, with Sandra Bullock’s Chicago MTA clerk in the ultimate brain-dead job and a suspiciously nice apartment in a decent neighborhood. (Then again, her character was an orphan, so maybe she inheirited some money.) Her initial romantic pairing is a meet-cute farce combining elements of heroism and the red-herring sap’s conveniently being tucked away in a coma, during which she engages in classic screwball fashion with the sap’s totally endearing and deserving brother. Their courtship remains constrained and chaste until her farcically aborted nuptials, during which All Is Revealed, paving the way for her legitimate wedding to the Decent Brother. Even better than the plot turns is the on-screen chemistry between Bullock and Bill Pullman; this is the rare rom-com with realistic, likeable characters sharing a believable attraction. Even the secondary characters, all quirkily likeable, burnish the holiday glow. Shakespeare would’ve recognized the plot mechanics, if not the El – or for that matter, Christmas as celebrated in America’s suburbia.

I love this movie. I don’t care how silly it is, the romance feels real.

And I didn’t think her apartment seemed very nice. It’s been a while since I saw it, though.

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