# Two Super Bowl history questions **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 24, 2006, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392 "2006-01-24T14:42:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![HelloKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@HelloKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelloKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/41 "2006-01-25T15:10:05Z")
Sorry to give my opinion in GQ, but y’all do realize that where the SuperBowl is hosted has _nothing_ to do with the actual game, fairness for the teams or players and _everything_ to do with money, right?? The SuperBowl is in Detroit this year to please all of Paul Tagliabue’s Motor City cronies. They go to New Orleans and Miami so often so that all the corporate types and lobbyists have a nice place to take clients, play golf and enjoy the nightlife away from their wives. If the NFL was worried whether Joe Fan could afford to go to the game ticket prices would not start out at $700. They will throw a bone to places like Jacksonville every once in awhile, but who knows what kind of payoffs took place to get the NFL to have it there. They will never go back there, mark my words. Here in Kansas City (Note to the OP: An all-Missouri SuperBowl could involve the Kansas City (MO) Chiefs vs the St. Louis Rams) Lamar Hunt has been begging to have a SuperBowl in KC since Arrowhead was built. This year the NFL “committed” to host a SuperBowl here if **the team builds a roof over the stadium!!!** Hey, I know!! Let’s just get the taxpayers to pay for it! Then we’ll charge them $700 if they want to come to the game! It will be on the ballot in April… :rolleyes: (Disclaimer: I am a huge Chiefs and NFL fan in general, I’m just tired of teams asking for local taxpayers to pay for their stadiums and improvements) ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/42 "2006-01-25T15:23:16Z")
Moot point. The best way to watch the Super Bowl is in the comfort of your own home, relaxed on the couch, with lots of munchies. And the TV tuned to any channel other than the Super Bowl one. ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/43 "2006-01-25T15:48:16Z")
So Kitty will the measure pass ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/44 "2006-01-25T16:00:22Z")
> [@AWB](#): > > So I guess since the Washington Redskins’ home field is actually in Landover, MD, we might someday (yeah, right) have an all-Maryland Superbowl. > > Weird to think about. Truly. What, not Raljohn or whatever that was? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/45 "2006-01-25T16:27:05Z")
> [@HelloKitty](#): > > The SuperBowl is in Detroit this year to please all of Paul Tagliabue’s Motor City cronies. They go to New Orleans and Miami so often so that all the corporate types and lobbyists have a nice place to take clients, play golf and enjoy the nightlife away from their wives. If the NFL was worried whether Joe Fan could afford to go to the game ticket prices would not start out at $700. Detroit is also the home to the US auto industry, based in Detroit (for the time being at least) and which has been and continues to be a huge sponsor of the NFL. I wouldn’t be surprised if St. Louis’ domed stadium got a Super Bowl some day, based solely on how much money the NFL has made from Anheiser-Busch’s beer advertising money. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/46 "2006-01-25T17:29:18Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > The Powers That Be in Southern California have decided that the Coliseum (greatly modified) would be the home to any L.A. NFL team. That’s the _government_ PTB’s, right? Any private entrepreneur could build one, too, I assume. Anyway it isn’t “If they come, we will build it”, but the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/47 "2006-01-25T18:18:42Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > Detroit is also the home to the US auto industry, based in Detroit (for the time being at least) and which has been and continues to be a huge sponsor of the NFL. I wouldn’t be surprised if St. Louis’ domed stadium got a Super Bowl some day, based solely on how much money the NFL has made from Anheiser-Busch’s beer advertising money. Coors Light is the official beer of the NFL. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/48 "2006-01-25T19:55:25Z")
> [@zamboniracer](#): > > Detroit is also the home to the US auto industry, based in Detroit (for the time being at least) and which has been and continues to be a huge sponsor of the NFL. As _The Daily Show_ pointed out last night, at least the 30,000 workers about to be laid off by Ford have the consolation of having the SuperBowl in their city this year. ---
**Author:** ![HelloKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@HelloKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelloKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/49 "2006-01-25T20:49:09Z")
> [@gazpacho](#): > > So Kitty will the measure pass? **gaspacho** are you also in the KC area? They have had similar measures on the ballots for several years now and so far all of them have failed. We are a “metro-plex” or whatever you want to call it that includes 2 states and many counties. Last time it was a bi-state issue and was voted down–not enough of the counties that voted passed it. This time the measure is on the ballot in Jackson County, MO, which is where the stadiums (also KC Royals baseball–I use the term loosely in the case of the Royals–play next door to Arrowhead) are located. Jackson County was the only county on the MO side to vote in favor of the stadium issue last time. So they are trying everything they can to get it pushed through. They change the terms every time…this time they want to add handling fees to baseball tickets and make people outside of Jackson county _pay more to park!!!_ at Royals/Chiefs games (currently $20 Chiefs, $8 Royals), in addition to a sales tax increase. I seriously doubt the measure will pass, but there will be a ton of hype starting up here in a few weeks. The dreaded “pass it or teams will go bye-bye” will be trotted out, as well as the “Pass it and we can get a Super Bowl!!!” pie-in-the-sky tidbit. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/50 "2006-01-25T21:24:21Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That’s the _government_ PTB’s, right? Any private entrepreneur could build one, too, I assume. Anyway it isn’t “If they come, we will build it”, but the other way around. It is indeed the government, in particular the Coliseum Commission, which consists of members of State, County, and City of L.A. government officials, so it’s a tough nut to crack. Two owners of the Dodgers: Peter O’Malley and Frank McCourt have floated trial balloons about building a football stadium in the area of Dodger Stadium and they got shot down. There was also an attempt to build a stadium in Carson, but that plan never got anywhere and instead they have a soccer stadium and tennis facility. It’s not easy to raise the capital to build a sports stadium on one’s own. Not only is it expensive, but the zoning and permits aren’t easy to come by. ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/51 "2006-01-26T03:34:19Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > What, not Raljohn or whatever that was? 😉 They stopped calling it that after Danny-Boy Snyder took Jack Kent Cook’s name off the stadium that **he** built. The Redskins have also been lobbying to hold a Super Bowl too because the ‘Skins have the largest capacity stadium in the league (94k+). Oh, yeah and IT’S THE FREAKIN’ NATIONS CAPITOL! ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/52 "2006-01-26T16:22:19Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Coors Light is the official beer of the NFL. So I just imagined seeing all those Bud Bowl commercials over the past umpteen years. :rolleyes: I’ll take you word for it that Coors is the “official” beer of the NFL this year. Trust me, at the Cleveland Browns Stadum beer bottle riot several years ago, all brands (Bud, Miller and Coors) were being thrown onto the field. ---
**Author:** ![Crandolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@Crandolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crandolph)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2006, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/53 "2006-01-26T18:07:03Z")
> [@Madd Maxx](#): > > Oh, yeah and IT’S THE FREAKIN’ NATIONS CAPITOL! Actually it’s in suburban Maryland isn’t it? FedEx Field, I mean. We’ve got the Prince George’s County Redskins & the Irving Cowboys & the Northern Jersey Giants… ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/54 "2006-01-27T17:39:40Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Thanks for the info about the stadiums, etc. > > In my six short football seasons here in the US, the need for a warm weather Superbowl is one thing i have come to hate about the NFL. > > Personally, i think a Superbowl played in driving New England snow or frigid Green Bay temperatures would be cool (heh heh) to watch. It’s not like people would refuse to attend, and it’s not like folks would switch off their TV sets. Hell, there’s something sort of comforting about sitting in a warm loungeroom and watching a bunch of guys play football in the snow. That AFC Championship game between the Patriots and the Raiders a few seasons ago was fantastic. > > I think it’s a silly policy. I think the real reason that the NFL wants to keep to warm weather venues, beyond the games itself, it for the half time show. The NFL has these extravaganzas in order to keep fans in their seats at home, so they can change millions for their commercials. If that half time show gets snowed out, or had the potential to get snowed out, it would cost the league millions. ---
**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/55 "2012-01-03T03:48:19Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > What, not Raljohn or whatever that was? 😉 Raljohn was “undone” when Dan Snyder bought the team. He also renamed the stadium from “Jack Kent Cooke Stadium” to “FedEx Field”. So much for JKC’s decades of effort. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/56 "2012-01-03T04:05:21Z")
At least you responded to someone who is still active here… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/57 "2012-01-03T04:20:45Z")
> [@AWB](#): > > Raljohn was “undone” when Dan Snyder bought the team. He also renamed the stadium from “Jack Kent Cooke Stadium” to “FedEx Field”. So much for JKC’s decades of effort. It took you five years to think of that response?:dubious: In any case, let’s move this to the Game Room. Please note that this is an old thread. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/58 "2012-01-03T04:38:19Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > It took you five years to think of that response?:dubious: He’s the George Costanza of SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/59 "2012-01-03T04:39:42Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > It took you five years to think of that response?:dubious: > > In any case, let’s move this to the Game Room. Please note that this is an old thread. > > Colibri > General Questions Moderator We’ll it only took six years to move this thread, so you still owe him a year. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392/60 "2012-01-03T04:45:52Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > We’ll it only took six years to move this thread, so you still owe him a year. It would have been difficult to move the thread to the Game Room when it was last active, since that was more than two years before the forum was established. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-super-bowl-history-questions/341392.md?page=4)